Formula-1 2019

God-Speed · 08-08-2019, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

Mercedes motorsport strategy director James Vowles says "morsels of data" from Friday practice helped the Formula 1 team predict how Max Verstappen's tyres would behave in the Hungarian Grand Prix.

Lewis Hamilton won the race after pitting for a second time, overhauling Verstappen with four laps remaining as the Red Bull driver struggled on ageing hard Pirelli tyres.

All teams were compromised by limited dry running on Friday, but Vowles said Mercedes was able to construct models that allowed the team to predict how Verstappen's tyres would perform.

"Going into the race we had less data than normal due to the wet running on Friday," said Vowles in Mercedes' post-race Pure Pitwall video.

"No one had long run the hard tyre - run it with fuel to understand the wear, the degradation and how it would progress in the race.

"And that creates a lot of unknowns. Everyone went into the race, ourselves included, with the intention of one-stopping.

"As we went in it was clear there was no undercut opportunity, our next plan was to offset ourselves on tyres relative to Verstappen and then force him into a situation where he is using his hard tyre resource as much as possible, and maybe put him off the curve.

"As Verstappen and Lewis started to pull away from the field, it became obvious that other opportunities existed, which in our case, was a two-stop.

"We have a team behind the scenes that are working tirelessly. They took the morsels of data from Friday, the little running that we had, and constructed models as to how our tyres and Verstappen's tyres would perform during the race. And they were spot on.

"It is those models that enable us to understand that two-stop would very much lead to a fantastic situation at the end of the race, and that Verstappen's tyres should drop off the curve if we can pressure him enough.

"We had 20 seconds of race time that we had to make up, and then we had to overtake Verstappen at the end of the race. Lewis, rightly so, had concerns about that but every lap he delivered the lap time we needed in order to do that.

"It caused Verstappen to have to respond and fight hard and use the tyre he had available to him to pull that gap further, but it was with no avail, ultimately. He fell off the tyre curve, as the team predicted, and we ended up with the win."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14...to-win-hungary

DLSTR, good read.

Now if the Ferrari Team thought this way they might have a win or two.

danegrey · 08-12-2019, 06:54 PM

interesting note, just watch BBC America TopGear, they had a segment on the Lotus79 that ran in 1978. The car was 2 seconds faster than the rest of field when it was introduced. They went on to dominate.

So for as much as we would like to see more action, teams/drivers do dominate. There are other examples. so nothing really has changed.

The interesting item was they showed the 78 rule book vs 2019 rule book and I swear the 78 rule book was 10% of the current rule book.

Cheers

danegrey · 08-13-2019, 12:32 PM

Current Mercedes Team descendant of Tyrrell
I was watching a youtube about the Tyrrell P34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adsyJLzGIpA

At the end, they were talking about what happen to Tyrrell from the Tyrrell Racing wiki
The double championship-winning Brawn GP team of 2009 and the present Mercedes team can loosely be said to be descendants of Tyrrell, through its predecessors, Honda Racing F1 and BAR. While BAR bought the Tyrrell F1 team and entry, they used a different factory, chassis builder and engine – most of the former Tyrrell cars and equipment were sold to Paul Stoddart, later owner of the Minardi F1 team.

When team boss Ross Brawn led a management buyout of the Honda F1 team to compete in the 2009 season, a revival of the Tyrrell name was briefly considered when deciding what to call the new team.[7]

Just found it interesting

As of the 2019 Hungarian Grand Prix, the teams which descended from Tyrrell have won 97 Grands Prix, 6 Drivers' and 6 Constructors' championships.

The Minardi 2-seater F1 cars are modifications of the 1998 Tyrrell 026 design, most noticeable in the distinctive shape of the nose of the car. These cars still run in demos today, most recently as demo cars during the launch of the Yas Marina F1 track.

axmea? · 08-30-2019, 04:44 AM

F1 back on track!

Gasly "Shocked about his demotion to Toro Rosso". Why? Because clueless.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...pFVzAL3Jo.html

God-Speed · 11-04-2019, 07:08 AM

Hope you guys enjoyed the US Grand Prix yesterday. I thought it was a good race. I found it interesting how much the drivers complained about how bumpy the track was. This is old news. The IMSA guys talked about this and they have not been at COTA in two year. This was also a big complaint from the MOTO GP riders as well. The Track is set to be closed over the winter for major improvements. Hopefully that means resurfacing the whole track not just parts of it. Any way just two race to go for the 2019 season.

danegrey · 11-04-2019, 08:37 AM

yes, it was a bit exciting there at the end, wished Mexico would have played out better

alcheng · 12-01-2019, 12:24 PM

For the whole 2019 season, the midfield is exciting, but the front is very boring...

08-12-2019, 06:54 PM	#152 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,190 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649540	interesting note, just watch BBC America TopGear, they had a segment on the Lotus79 that ran in 1978. The car was 2 seconds faster than the rest of field when it was introduced. They went on to dominate. So for as much as we would like to see more action, teams/drivers do dominate. There are other examples. so nothing really has changed. The interesting item was they showed the 78 rule book vs 2019 rule book and I swear the 78 rule book was 10% of the current rule book. Cheers DLSTR likes this. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

08-13-2019, 12:32 PM	#153 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,190 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649540	Current Mercedes Team descendant of Tyrrell I was watching a youtube about the Tyrrell P34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adsyJLzGIpA At the end, they were talking about what happen to Tyrrell from the Tyrrell Racing wiki The double championship-winning Brawn GP team of 2009 and the present Mercedes team can loosely be said to be descendants of Tyrrell, through its predecessors, Honda Racing F1 and BAR. While BAR bought the Tyrrell F1 team and entry, they used a different factory, chassis builder and engine – most of the former Tyrrell cars and equipment were sold to Paul Stoddart, later owner of the Minardi F1 team. When team boss Ross Brawn led a management buyout of the Honda F1 team to compete in the 2009 season, a revival of the Tyrrell name was briefly considered when deciding what to call the new team.[7] Just found it interesting As of the 2019 Hungarian Grand Prix, the teams which descended from Tyrrell have won 97 Grands Prix, 6 Drivers' and 6 Constructors' championships. The Minardi 2-seater F1 cars are modifications of the 1998 Tyrrell 026 design, most noticeable in the distinctive shape of the nose of the car. These cars still run in demos today, most recently as demo cars during the launch of the Yas Marina F1 track. God-Speed and Hotrodz like this. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

08-30-2019, 04:44 AM	#154 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,235 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	F1 back on track! Gasly "Shocked about his demotion to Toro Rosso". Why? Because clueless. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...pFVzAL3Jo.html God-Speed likes this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

11-04-2019, 07:08 AM	#155 (permalink)
God-Speed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 4,363 Drives: Prototype Rep Power: 2684377	Hope you guys enjoyed the US Grand Prix yesterday. I thought it was a good race. I found it interesting how much the drivers complained about how bumpy the track was. This is old news. The IMSA guys talked about this and they have not been at COTA in two year. This was also a big complaint from the MOTO GP riders as well. The Track is set to be closed over the winter for major improvements. Hopefully that means resurfacing the whole track not just parts of it. Any way just two race to go for the 2019 season. JARblue, axmea?, Hotrodz and 1 others like this.

11-04-2019, 08:37 AM	#156 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,190 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649540	yes, it was a bit exciting there at the end, wished Mexico would have played out better God-Speed likes this. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

12-01-2019, 12:24 PM	#157 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	For the whole 2019 season, the midfield is exciting, but the front is very boring... God-Speed likes this.

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