Formula-1 2019

Spooler · 05-24-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I think great drivers would be great drivers no matter what era you put them in. One could argue they may actually be better because they did what they did without modern technology. This can said for most sports that technology and fitness has had a significant impact on. You know who it better Nicholas vs Woods, Babe vs Aaron vs Bonds and the discussion and speculation goes on!

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Yeap, it is their drive for perfection and to be the very best.

TreeSemdyZee · 05-29-2019, 06:56 PM

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alcheng · 06-09-2019, 01:25 PM

finally, a mercedes is being sandwiched by 2 ferrari on the grid.

I am eager to see what will happen in the first two corners...

Hotrodz · 06-09-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

finally, a mercedes is being sandwiched by 2 ferrari on the grid.

I am eager to see what will happen in the first two corners...

I predict Vettle will succumb to the pressure and it will be another will for the Silver Arrow!

Hotrodz · 06-09-2019, 04:34 PM

Well I guess I was right and I don't like the way it happened!!!

God-Speed · 06-09-2019, 04:45 PM

I am a Hamilton fan, however Vettel won the race. The stewards got the race wrong in a major way. Also once again, will someone please take the mic away from Martin Brundle. He has to be the worst I have ever seen. Including all sport.

Hotrodz · 06-09-2019, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

I am a Hamilton fan, however Vettel won the race. The stewards got the race wrong in a major way. Also once again, will someone please take the mic away from Martin Brundle. He has to be the worst I have ever seen. Including all sport.

I couldn't agree more!

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alcheng · 06-09-2019, 06:28 PM

a very very close call...

Vettel did kinda squeeze Hamilton towards the wall...

Cyber370 · 06-10-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

I am a Hamilton fan, however Vettel won the race. The stewards got the race wrong in a major way. Also once again, will someone please take the mic away from Martin Brundle. He has to be the worst I have ever seen. Including all sport.

I agree 110%!! I was there. That call was complete bullsh*t and demonstrates what is wrong with F1. Vettel was supposed to somehow maintain control of the car on GRASS, stop the car and wait for Hamilton to pass before re-entering the race track. Idiots!!!

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God-Speed · 06-10-2019, 05:10 PM

Now Vettel knows how the New Orleans Saints feel!

Hotrodz · 06-10-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by God-Speed

Now Vettel knows how the New Orleans Saints feel!

LMAO, that's funny and they still lost their protest as shall Vettel. There is no way they are going to reverse their decision as it will lead to more protest. The best thing they can do is change the rule to state that a car that leaves the track most enter back on to the the track safely and providing room for other vehicles to pass given the totality of the circumstances. This will add much needed room for common sense to prevail...or not!

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Spooler · 06-10-2019, 07:28 PM

Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won.

danegrey · 06-10-2019, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won.

I agree, he lost focus and lost the race... As to the call, it sucks, but like everything else with all the damn replays / slow motion and such, alters the outcome. In reading several articles today, it showed that he did go wider then he needed to... But damn, you got to go and make a charge... What is interesting Hamilton said he would to the same thing... I really thing its the drivers fault, it all started with complaining about this and that and now they have a mess. Damn this is racing and sh-t happens....

ltullos · 06-10-2019, 07:40 PM

Are you saying Vettel had enough speed to increase his lead b more than 5 sec when Ham was able to stay within 3 virtually all day; and had turned up to the max power Toto would give him to make a pass in the last 15 laps?

It was a ******** penalty and disgrace and totally representative for what F1 has become where everything has become more important than drivers and racing. The one opinion I unquestionably respect who I didn't hear speak out on it is Jackie Stewart.

alcheng · 06-10-2019, 07:48 PM

I can see many people think the stewards ruined Vettel race and also F1.

But the original cause of the incident is the driver's error by Vettel himself.

Hamilton didn't force him to run onto the grass, he was all by himself as it happens which he missed the right hander thus has to go straight, got onto the grass.

If you look at the replay, he gets back onto the asphalt, gained control of the car when it sits on the middle of the track, then he merges to the right thus squeeze hamilton.

His own mistake caused the incident, and he should responsible for the consequence

I am not a fan of either of both.

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God-Speed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 4,363 Drives: Prototype Rep Power: 2684377	I am a Hamilton fan, however Vettel won the race. The stewards got the race wrong in a major way. Also once again, will someone please take the mic away from Martin Brundle. He has to be the worst I have ever seen. Including all sport. JARblue, axmea? and Hotrodz like this.

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alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	a very very close call... Vettel did kinda squeeze Hamilton towards the wall...

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,795 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Well Vettel didn't get back on the track in a safe manner. So he failed. What erks me about Vettel is he should have had his head down and got a lead of more than 5 seconds. That's what a driver would have done. Instead he was whining like a big old baby. Hell, he made the mistake in the first place. If he wouldn't have messed up he would have won. alcheng and Hotrodz like this.

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ltullos Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 312 Drives: 2016 Nismo Tech MT Rep Power: 14	Are you saying Vettel had enough speed to increase his lead b more than 5 sec when Ham was able to stay within 3 virtually all day; and had turned up to the max power Toto would give him to make a pass in the last 15 laps? It was a ******** penalty and disgrace and totally representative for what F1 has become where everything has become more important than drivers and racing. The one opinion I unquestionably respect who I didn't hear speak out on it is Jackie Stewart.

06-10-2019, 07:48 PM	#120 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	I can see many people think the stewards ruined Vettel race and also F1. But the original cause of the incident is the driver's error by Vettel himself. Hamilton didn't force him to run onto the grass, he was all by himself as it happens which he missed the right hander thus has to go straight, got onto the grass. If you look at the replay, he gets back onto the asphalt, gained control of the car when it sits on the middle of the track, then he merges to the right thus squeeze hamilton. His own mistake caused the incident, and he should responsible for the consequence I am not a fan of either of both.

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