Well deserved win for 33 charging hard early knowing he has nothing to loose and smart of Hamilton to take a conservative approach in a car that isn't at its best and with Vettel all the way in the back. Vettel's drive was amazing.

I am surprised quite a bit by the huge margin of how much mercedes is behind red bull.

especially on the high speed straightaway.

not a fan of verstappen but his drive is brilliant, 3 laps down the race and there's only hamilton and him 2 miles away from the batch already.

he must have taken a very very good exit on the last hairpin thus build up the straight line speed on the grandstand, since it's a known fact that renault engine has the least power among the three.

And what a race for vandoorne!! great race.

It's called "sandbagging". Mercedes are so full of it. They know that their cars are much faster than everyone else so they throw a race or two to give the whole spectacle an appearance of fairness.

I really hope something is done to change this in 2018. Or we'll be stuck with Formula E..........I think I threw up in my mouth a little. :yawn:

ugh.... I could understand when they do that in pre-season or FP1,2 and 3.

but throw in a race or two....

I don't think they will do it until they've at least claimed the CC.

I agree, there is to much at stake for brand recognition. There is no way Mercedes wants Ferrari to be close to them.

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Review of the race and a not great review of Vettel and his 'issues' so far!

I don't know... this season martin brundle has shown quite a bit of dislike on vettel...

i used to like him as a commentator... but he is a bit too much bias into non-vettel this season...

Martin is fairly objective compared to others and is not blinded by LH love. Vettel has made some very stupid moves last year and this. Im no fan of LH overall but the best former WDC on the grid in terms of pace and discipline and good headwork is not Vettel by any means.

Prac 1 and 2 summary here in Japan! Race weekend! :)

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to be honest, I am not a fan of neither one of both, since their Red-Bull and McLaren days.

Both won their championships when they have the best cars on the grid thus basically it's a 2 cars competition.

vettel is a big whiner and hamilton is a selfish eh-hole.

obviously vettel has done some stupid moves this season, and he deserves to receive blames.

Speed wise, I think they are both about the same... can't really judge them since they won their DC with the best cars at that time.

Put them in a Sauber, then we can see whose a faster driver.

Japanese GP: Ferrari 'running out of steam' in 2017 after another engine failure for Sebastian Vettel | F1 News

Sums up Japan a bit!! :)

When has this not been the case? lol

I love when people make this useless argument about putting the winning drivers in the worst cars. The top drivers already proved their potential by being the fastest in the lower series.

Vettel and Hamilton have already faced each other on equal terms back in F3 years ago. Guess who won.....
Alonso and Hamilton already raced each other in equal cars back in 2007...Guess who won.

Hamilton is beating Bottas now with equal cars. At the beginning of the year everyone was making remarks that Bottas would wipe the floor with Hamilton... yet he is struggling to even beat the Ferrari of Vettel.

So really, how valid is this silly argument about saying it's all the car and not the driver.

Couldn't agree more. Most all of the Driver Champions have had the best car. I'm by no means a Hamilton fan, but at the moment it is clear he is the best.
If Vettel had his his idol Schumacher's temperment, he might be. If things don't go his way he just whines and seems to take his mind off the prize.

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Formula-1 2017...!!
 

You really believe that?

They do not have equal cars and neither do Vettel and Raikkonen. F1 teams do whatever they can get away with to make their top driver win. It's part of the game.