Hungary Race Day :)

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Wolff 'not in happy place' after Hamilton-Bottas swap | PlanetF1 : PlanetF1

I really have no idea, no frigging idea on how come people cries about that 3 points or whatever for hamilton....

What hamilton done on the last lap was being magnified so big, and it's just ridiculously too big.

What is that about "he's such sportsmanship because he gave his place back..."

At the first place, it was Bottas who gave his place to hamilton.

Who is being the "Sportsman" in the race? Who gave up his position at first? it was Bottas

On the other hand, before the Hungarian GP, Bottas was about 30 points(?) behind hamilton, mathematically, Bottas can still win enough points to take the DC, thus he actually has the right to keep his 3rd, or simply defend hamilton from passing him.

However, with 8 races to go, mercedes, who told the public they will give fair play to both driver, is already asking bottas to give up his position to hamilton, thus they are slapping their own mouth.

Moreover, who can guarantee hamilton can make a fair pass on Bottas and finish 3rd? Nobody, thus saying hamilton lost 3 points because of his sportsmanship is, I say, completely rubbish.

If he has the sportsmanship, he can rather pass bottas with a legit move than to ask bottas to give the place.

hamilton = sportsmanship?

nope. simple as that.

mercedes = fair play?

nope. simple as that.

If Red Bull does not keep up with the other two, Verstappen will be driving for Ferrari in '19. Kimi will be driving for Ferrari until then. Another game changer is if F1 opens it up to other manufacturers for the power unit. I would love to see Porsche, Aston, even Ford in F1.

I doubt if Vettel will let Ferrari have Verstappen though....

The thing is if Verstappen switch to another team, he probably will have at least equal support if he couldn't be the 1st driver..

And that won't be happening if Vettel is still in Ferrari.

I hope renault can catch up with mercedes and ferrari, so does honda/mclaren.

That will make the whole F1 much more exciting.

I get it. Can't have both drivers with Ferrari. Let's face it, Verstappen is the future of F1 and Ferrari always looks at the future.

On another note, the Williams crew did it again.
Williams crew set the best pitstop time in Hungary | GRAND PRIX 247

Speaking of the future...

The FIA unveils the 2018 Formula 2 car with F1 halo.

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lots of battle in the midfield.

:iagree: Yup, lots of good racing by the up and coming youngsters.

Damn! Another boring Lewis Hamilton win. He just did laps way ahead of the pack. Nothing to do with his driving abilities and all to do about the car. I'm tired of these types of F1 races. Like watching paint dry. I don't care what goes on midfield. I care about who's winning. I really thought it was going to be different in '17 season. I was wrong. The new F1 owners need to do something to fix this next season or I'm done!


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Every time they mention Hamilton's pole records in recent weeks, I just think about the last two years where he had 25+ essentially uncontested pole positions :shakes head:

ok, this is an interesting article

Ferrari F1 team inks new long-term Marlboro agreement | Autoweek

Cigarette advertising in racing still there

the only way to fix it is shuffle the drivers and cars..

put all the top 8 drivers in the slowest car like Sauber, Haas, Renault...

but of cause, it'll never happen in reality....


or... there's no works team.

surely nothing will change if there's no dramatic change to the whole system, works teams or big budget teams has the funds thus has the best drivers and resources.

works teams also has first-hand information/data on the engine and design, more importantly, fundings.

look at indy cars, there's no works team. customers teams buy chassis and engine.

simple design therefore you see a very evenly spread out competition.

What's the point, if they can't show the logo?

They don't have to the color scheme is enough of a brand for people to know.