Formula-1 2017...!!

Hotrodz · 06-27-2017, 11:18 AM

Why should have Hamilton received a penalty as the telemetry showed he did not brake at all...he lilfted and Vettel was to close, not paying attention and accelerated into him.

I'm old school anyway, as the saying goes if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Tell me of one great or multiple champion that doesn't have their own dirty little tricks. Hell Vettel has received many penalties in the past and or crashed out because of his aggressiveness. Alonso is right there too but he ain't got a car that makes it worth his while. I like both those guys. Come on now...racing is rubbing!!!

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JARblue · 06-27-2017, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Why should have Hamilton received a penalty as the telemetry showed he did not brake at all...he lilfted and Vettel was to close, not paying attention and accelerated into him.

Ok, if he didn't actually hit the brakes, he doesn't deserve a penalty. But how many car lengths is he supposed to be behind the safety car? Cause the safety car was a full two turns ahead of him several times during yellow cautions - his own team even had to say something to him.

Hotrodz · 06-27-2017, 11:27 AM

That more the question to me...they had told him during the previous caution that he was to close to the safety car on the restart and that he needed to be further behind at least ten car links! He did what they asked...

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JARblue · 06-27-2017, 11:41 AM

Actually he was told both that he was too close and too far at different points during the race.

Hotrodz · 06-27-2017, 11:46 AM

Agreed! So what's a guy to do? The best thing for me too win!

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Hotrodz · 06-27-2017, 12:02 PM

The reality is Hamilton received the ultimate penalty as Vettel gained 3 more points and the penalty he deserved should have taken him out of gaining any points.

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alcheng · 06-27-2017, 01:13 PM

Stewart defends Vettel's 'inappropriate behaviour' | PlanetF1 : PlanetF1

I agree with Jackie Stewart, they both should deserve a penalty, and while everyone's attention is being drawn to Vettel's childish behavior, nobody cares who initiated the incident.

Quoted:

“It would be very simple to put the complete blame on one man, but what initiated the bad behaviour was what happened before.”

and while this can be an ongoing talks with no end...

we should move on to the next race, Austria...

Honda to bring 'Spec 3' PU to Austrian GP - GPUpdate.net

Hopefully they will improve...

ayrton88 · 06-27-2017, 05:47 PM

Apparently Jean Todt is considering bringing Vettel before an FIA tribunal. He needs those points removed. The FIA stripped Schumacher of his 2nd place in the final standings when he deliberately ran into Villenueve at the '97 Spanish GP. So there is precedent. Granted that was at racing speed so much more serious. What is obvious is that Vettel has learned well from his hero. At least Schumacher wasn't such a cry baby.

TreeSemdyZee · 06-27-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Agreed! So what's a guy to do? The best thing for me too win!

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What's a guy to do? Ask Ricciardo!!!

I thought it was hilarious when they went to his mic and he was chuckling. WTF? I won?
Total opposite of last year's Monaco blunder.

Hotrodz · 06-27-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

What's a guy to do? Ask Ricciardo!!!

I thought it was hilarious when they went to his mic and he was chuckling. WTF? I won?
Total opposite of last year's Monaco blunder.

Lol, I was cracking up when that happened. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time. How can you like him and he is a example of a great driver but no wold champion caliber because he races like his personality. That being said there not many current race car drivers with as many wins as him!

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TreeSemdyZee · 06-27-2017, 07:15 PM

And his plans to spread "Athletes Mouth" to obtain world domination is brilliant.

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Hotrodz · 06-27-2017, 07:43 PM

I love it...it so down under lol!

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Cyber370 · 06-28-2017, 06:12 PM

I love it when Hamilton loses a race! And you know it will be a great race when he's not in the lead as this last one was. I'm just tired of seeing Mercedes team drivers winning because they have a faster car than everyone else. All those rules and Mercedes still manages to have some unknown speed advantage.

alcheng · 06-29-2017, 02:58 AM

it is "funny" because after so many years on the so-called cutting-budget and try the make the field an even ground...

big teams still have a big leading gap and small teams are still 2 laps behind.

remember those days when people complains about the big teams always have tons of money to spend on extra sets of tires, tons of spare engines, 3rd chassis, extra testing cos they have extra fundings.... blah blah blah..

then FIA and F1 build those rules on limited tires, chassis, limited testings...

however, the situation doesn't seems to be changing alot....

xxAGAVExx · 06-29-2017, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

it is "funny" because after so many years on the so-called cutting-budget and try the make the field an even ground...

big teams still have a big leading gap and small teams are still 2 laps behind.

remember those days when people complains about the big teams always have tons of money to spend on extra sets of tires, tons of spare engines, 3rd chassis, extra testing cos they have extra fundings.... blah blah blah..

then FIA and F1 build those rules on limited tires, chassis, limited testings...

however, the situation doesn't seems to be changing alot....

The money isn't being spent on quantity of spare parts now, but the quality (engineering). Same gobs of money being spent by the top teams.

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06-27-2017, 11:18 AM	#136 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Why should have Hamilton received a penalty as the telemetry showed he did not brake at all...he lilfted and Vettel was to close, not paying attention and accelerated into him. I'm old school anyway, as the saying goes if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. Tell me of one great or multiple champion that doesn't have their own dirty little tricks. Hell Vettel has received many penalties in the past and or crashed out because of his aggressiveness. Alonso is right there too but he ain't got a car that makes it worth his while. I like both those guys. Come on now...racing is rubbing!!! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk JARblue likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

06-27-2017, 11:27 AM	#138 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	That more the question to me...they had told him during the previous caution that he was to close to the safety car on the restart and that he needed to be further behind at least ten car links! He did what they asked... Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk TreeSemdyZee likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

06-27-2017, 11:41 AM	#139 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Actually he was told both that he was too close and too far at different points during the race. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

06-27-2017, 11:46 AM	#140 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Agreed! So what's a guy to do? The best thing for me too win! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

06-27-2017, 12:02 PM	#141 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	The reality is Hamilton received the ultimate penalty as Vettel gained 3 more points and the penalty he deserved should have taken him out of gaining any points. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk JARblue and alcheng like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

06-27-2017, 01:13 PM	#142 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	Stewart defends Vettel's 'inappropriate behaviour' \| PlanetF1 : PlanetF1 I agree with Jackie Stewart, they both should deserve a penalty, and while everyone's attention is being drawn to Vettel's childish behavior, nobody cares who initiated the incident. Quoted: *“It would be very simple to put the complete blame on one man, but what initiated the bad behaviour was what happened before.”* and while this can be an ongoing talks with no end... we should move on to the next race, Austria... Honda to bring 'Spec 3' PU to Austrian GP - GPUpdate.net Hopefully they will improve... JARblue and Hotrodz like this.

06-27-2017, 05:47 PM	#143 (permalink)
ayrton88 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 397 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	Apparently Jean Todt is considering bringing Vettel before an FIA tribunal. He needs those points removed. The FIA stripped Schumacher of his 2nd place in the final standings when he deliberately ran into Villenueve at the '97 Spanish GP. So there is precedent. Granted that was at racing speed so much more serious. What is obvious is that Vettel has learned well from his hero. At least Schumacher wasn't such a cry baby. axmea? and Hotrodz like this.

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TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	And his plans to spread "Athletes Mouth" to obtain world domination is brilliant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk JARblue and axmea? like this. __________________ Borla S-Type \| Motordyne \| Z1 (lots) \| South Bend \| K&N \| Nismo/Nismo S-Tune \| Eibach \| Aerojacket \| Fujimara \| Spl \| ZSpeed Performance \| Kenwood-Infinity-Sound Ordnance \| Whiteline \| Ecutek \| Hotchkis \| Clazzio \| VQ Vortex \|Morimoto XB \|Dynosty Tune 329.64hp 265.73 ft/lb

06-27-2017, 07:43 PM	#147 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I love it...it so down under lol! Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

06-28-2017, 06:12 PM	#148 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19372	I love it when Hamilton loses a race! And you know it will be a great race when he's not in the lead as this last one was. I'm just tired of seeing Mercedes team drivers winning because they have a faster car than everyone else. All those rules and Mercedes still manages to have some unknown speed advantage. __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)*

06-29-2017, 02:58 AM	#149 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,894 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418353	it is "funny" because after so many years on the so-called cutting-budget and try the make the field an even ground... big teams still have a big leading gap and small teams are still 2 laps behind. remember those days when people complains about the big teams always have tons of money to spend on extra sets of tires, tons of spare engines, 3rd chassis, extra testing cos they have extra fundings.... blah blah blah.. then FIA and F1 build those rules on limited tires, chassis, limited testings... however, the situation doesn't seems to be changing alot....

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