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Old 10-13-2015, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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NASCAR's championship is a farce now. You can literally win the first 35 races, finish 2nd in the 36th and final race, and lose the championship to someone that finished 10th in every race but won the final race. It's a ******* farce.

Motorsport is not like stick and ball sports... there is no need for a playoff system to manufacture drama. **** that ****, man.

To win a championship in motorsport you need to be strong over the course of the entire season. NASCAR's "Chase" and F1's failed attempt at double points last year are all ********. **** it pisses me off so bad.
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NASCAR's championship is a farce now. You can literally win the first 35 races, finish 2nd in the 36th and final race, and lose the championship to someone that finished 10th in every race but won the final race. It's a ******* farce.

Motorsport is not like stick and ball sports... there is no need for a playoff system to manufacture drama. **** that ****, man.

To win a championship in motorsport you need to be strong over the course of the entire season. NASCAR's "Chase" and F1's failed attempt at double points last year are all ********. **** it pisses me off so bad.
There is no bigger farce than what I am seeing with F1. The championship has already been decided for awhile now. Awesome cars and tracks but I want to see more than 4 seconds of actual racing each event. Especially considering the amount of cash I am spending to watch it live here in a couple weeks.

It is strange that a motorsport that has the moniker containing the word "formula" has in fact the greatest disparity in the competitiveness of the teams.

I understand that "it has always been this way", but saying that it has always been uncompetitive isn't an excuse. Oh well, as long as people are making money and no one seems to care, who gives a rat's butt what I think.

Off subject, I do agree that they have gone a little too far with the Chase and need to pull it back some. But it was exciting in 2011 where the Championship was decided by a tiebreaker.
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There is no bigger farce than what I am seeing with F1. The championship has already been decided for awhile now. Awesome cars and tracks but I want to see more than 4 seconds of actual racing each event. Especially considering the amount of cash I am spending to watch it live here in a couple weeks.

It is strange that a motorsport that has the moniker containing the word "formula" has in fact the greatest disparity in the competitiveness of the teams.

I understand that "it has always been this way", but saying that it has always been uncompetitive isn't an excuse. Oh well, as long as people are making money and no one seems to care, who gives a rat's butt what I think.

Off subject, I do agree that they have gone a little too far with the Chase and need to pull it back some. But it was exciting in 2011 where the Championship was decided by a tiebreaker.
Please explain to me how this current F1 season is a farce? Mercedes was well ahead of the game due to a massive rules change and they are reaping the benefits of their technical superiority. They have the fastest car, and more often than not the fastest car wins. That's racing, pure and simple. Sometimes it is flat out boring. We can only hope that the other teams catch up next year, and that the 2017 rules make things truly exciting.

It may not be exciting, but it certainly isn't a farce. At least what we are seeing with F1 is honest, unlike the manufactured drama in NASCAR. We've got fake debris cautions left and right to artificially bunch up the field, and then of course we have a completely ludicrous championship system. It just isn't genuine anymore.
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Please explain to me how this current F1 season is a farce? Mercedes was well ahead of the game due to a massive rules change and they are reaping the benefits of their technical superiority. They have the fastest car, and more often than not the fastest car wins. That's racing, pure and simple. Sometimes it is flat out boring. We can only hope that the other teams catch up next year, and that the 2017 rules make things truly exciting.

It may not be exciting, but it certainly isn't a farce. At least what we are seeing with F1 is honest, unlike the manufactured drama in NASCAR. We've got fake debris cautions left and right to artificially bunch up the field, and then of course we have a completely ludicrous championship system. It just isn't genuine anymore.
Mercedes spends the most money on the best engineers and management, so before one lap of "racing" the championship is already determined. The driver or the crew on race day has absolutely no determination in regard to the outcome of the championship. That is F1 and that is a farce.

The following has been my routine for watching F1 this year. I have stopped recording the practices and qualification broadcasts because invariably it is the same story; Mercedes dominates. For the race recording, I fast-forward through the pre-race commentary since it is absolutely meaningless. Just before the start I get a little excited, but LH pulls away and the race is over. Fast-forward through the remaining laps to see if LH has a mechanical problem. When he wins delete the recording. Shake my head in disappointment.

The one bright spot was Hungary where the skilled drivers could be competitive because Mercedes straight-line speed advantage was negated and LH crumbled under the pressure.
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Off subject, I do agree that they have gone a little too far with the Chase and need to pull it back some. But it was exciting in 2011 where the Championship was decided by a tiebreaker.
I hate the Chase. I hate all of the Chase formats. But the current Chase makes the old Chase look legitimate.

I wish we could just do away with the Chase altogether and go back to a season-long championship with no gimmicks. It's been proposed before, but a Formula 1 style point system in NASCAR would be great. Award points only to the top 25, and award first exponentially more points than second for that extra incentive to win.
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