AAM Comp Mid-Pipe Tune

vil9j · 10-15-2013, 04:08 PM

This may of have been brought up before but i have not found anything on it. I am thinking about ordering the mid-pipe from AAM because of the dyno gains they show on their charts. I already have the short tails. However, I was wondering if I Install the mid-pipe would I need a tune right after? Will it make my 370 run too lean or rich etc? Thank you guys for your help. I really appreciate it.

coolvans1988 · 11-06-2013, 05:54 PM

No tune needed. It's like installing a full exhaust system.

TerribleONE · 11-06-2013, 05:55 PM

X2 ^^ Until you replace the stock cats you are good to go with no tune.. at that point it is highly recommended.

vil9j · 11-11-2013, 10:01 PM

Ok great! What HFC's would be recommended? I've seen several with Berk's

coolvans1988 · 11-27-2013, 06:19 PM

Probably avoid the HFC for now. I think it will get too loud. I ordered my short tails and s-line midpipe. If i were to add a HFC, ill most likely remove the short tails and add a nismo axle back.

NickTurnon · 11-27-2013, 06:44 PM

^ This. AAM short tails & Midpipe is a pretty loud combo. Adding test pipes, resonated test pipes, or HFCs would get really loud.. I wouldnt recommend it.

With midpipe, short tails + a tune you are looking at around 25-30whp.. Those are good gains!

Cbtech · 11-27-2013, 07:04 PM

when i added the short tails I needed to get a tune since removing the stock muffler the car runs rich and requires a tune before it can run normally again. So i cant see why this would not need a tune.

coolvans1988 · 11-27-2013, 07:38 PM

Due to the back pressure it creates when its only short tails. I suppose the s-line midpipe creates a better flow that eliminates the back pressure created.

Cbtech · 11-27-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coolvans1988

Due to the back pressure it creates when its only short tails. I suppose the s-line midpipe creates a better flow that eliminates the back pressure created.

Without the muffler there is not enough back pressure. so by creating an even more breathable exhaust you lose more pressure and the car runs even richer. Iunno I could be wrong

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NickTurnon · 11-28-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech

when i added the short tails I needed to get a tune since removing the stock muffler the car runs rich and requires a tune before it can run normally again. So i cant see why this would not need a tune.

Yes the car runs slightly richer then stock with short tails, but honestly, it doesnt require a tune.

Ive had the short tails on my car for over 50k and haven't had a tune. I also have never had an issue (knock on wood).

With the added midpipe, you wont need a tune either. The tune will simply make the car perform even better, within the AFR specs and limits, and increase the amount of horsepower you'll see from your mods.

Like i said before, AAM claims 22whp from S-tails and midpipe. With a tune, youll pull another 5-10whp out of it.

visconti · 11-28-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vil9j

This may of have been brought up before but i have not found anything on it. I am thinking about ordering the mid-pipe from AAM because of the dyno gains they show on their charts. I already have the short tails. However, I was wondering if I Install the mid-pipe would I need a tune right after? Will it make my 370 run too lean or rich etc? Thank you guys for your help. I really appreciate it.

Yes, you'll want a tune. I recommend going EcuTek!

John

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SS_Firehawk · 11-28-2013, 11:05 AM

Opening up the exhaust allows more airflow in and out of the engine, it will run leaner. Minor changers might add richness on anything but full throttle, but for the most part, it will always be leaner with more breather mods. Running a bit rich is safe and hence, no tune necessary. Running too lean on the other hand, can be bad and why we say "get tuned" after you do intakes, cbe and testpipe, headers, or HFC.

Cbtech · 11-28-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Opening up the exhaust allows more airflow in and out of the engine, it will run leaner. Minor changers might add richness on anything but full throttle, but for the most part, it will always be leaner with more breather mods. Running a bit rich is safe and hence, no tune necessary. Running too lean on the other hand, can be bad and why we say "get tuned" after you do intakes, cbe and testpipe, headers, or HFC.

maybe at the lower end RPM's it would run richer but then as you got into the higher RPM's around three to four thousand is when it would lean up? I just noticed that the lower RPM's lost torque after getting the short tails

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vil9j · 12-03-2013, 12:13 AM

Yes i wanted to see what people's opinions on it where and from those who have the set up already to get some feedback from them. It is really appreciated. I might just do the mid-pipe along with my short tails and maybe Stillen G3 intakes.

coolvans1988 · 12-03-2013, 02:09 PM

I've placed my order with AAM for the Short Tails and Midpipe. I'll let you know in 1-2 weeks when it arrives and once installed.

11-06-2013, 05:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5850	X2 ^^ Until you replace the stock cats you are good to go with no tune.. at that point it is highly recommended. __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

11-11-2013, 10:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
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11-27-2013, 06:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
NickTurnon A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Scottsdale Age: 33 Posts: 1,636 Drives: 09 BS 7AT 370z Rep Power: 18	^ This. AAM short tails & Midpipe is a pretty loud combo. Adding test pipes, resonated test pipes, or HFCs would get really loud.. I wouldnt recommend it. With midpipe, short tails + a tune you are looking at around 25-30whp.. Those are good gains! __________________ 2009 Brilliant Silver BASE 7AT \| TEIN S-Tech Springs \| K&N Drop Ins & z1 Maf Tubes \| AAM S-Line Short Tails \| 5% Tint \| 20MM Spacers \| Sport Spoiler NickTurnon's 370z Build

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Cbtech A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,372 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 15	when i added the short tails I needed to get a tune since removing the stock muffler the car runs rich and requires a tune before it can run normally again. So i cant see why this would not need a tune. __________________ Are U in Sacramento or Central Valley California? Click here! Foglight Hardwire in less than 10 minutes! DIY: Automatic VDC off

11-28-2013, 11:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Opening up the exhaust allows more airflow in and out of the engine, it will run leaner. Minor changers might add richness on anything but full throttle, but for the most part, it will always be leaner with more breather mods. Running a bit rich is safe and hence, no tune necessary. Running too lean on the other hand, can be bad and why we say "get tuned" after you do intakes, cbe and testpipe, headers, or HFC. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

11-06-2013, 05:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
coolvans1988 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NA Posts: 402 Drives: 2013 370z PW A/T Rep Power: 13	No tune needed. It's like installing a full exhaust system.

11-27-2013, 06:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
coolvans1988 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NA Posts: 402 Drives: 2013 370z PW A/T Rep Power: 13	Probably avoid the HFC for now. I think it will get too loud. I ordered my short tails and s-line midpipe. If i were to add a HFC, ill most likely remove the short tails and add a nismo axle back.

11-27-2013, 07:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
coolvans1988 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NA Posts: 402 Drives: 2013 370z PW A/T Rep Power: 13	Due to the back pressure it creates when its only short tails. I suppose the s-line midpipe creates a better flow that eliminates the back pressure created.

12-03-2013, 12:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
vil9j Track Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 784 Drives: 370z Cpe Sprt '13 MT Rep Power: 13	Yes i wanted to see what people's opinions on it where and from those who have the set up already to get some feedback from them. It is really appreciated. I might just do the mid-pipe along with my short tails and maybe Stillen G3 intakes. __________________ POWERTRIX UL COILS W/ SWIFT SPRINGS \| STILLEN PULLEY \| MOTORDYNE INTAKE MANIFOLD \| STILLEN GEN 3 INTAKES \| MOTORDYNE ART PIPES \| MOTORDYNE Y-PIPE RESONATED \| MEISTERSCHAFT MIDPIPE \| MEISTERSCHAFT AXEL-BACK \| NITTO NT-05 TIRES \| SPL REAR-CAMBER-ARMS \| UPREV TUNE\| WHP

12-03-2013, 02:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
coolvans1988 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NA Posts: 402 Drives: 2013 370z PW A/T Rep Power: 13	I've placed my order with AAM for the Short Tails and Midpipe. I'll let you know in 1-2 weeks when it arrives and once installed.

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