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Originally Posted by adampetrasek According to the link at the begging of this tread; "2000 and newer vehicles no longer require tailpipe test" , but when i went to a

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Old 04-30-2013, 11:47 AM   #31 (permalink)
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According to the link at the begging of this tread; "2000 and newer vehicles no longer require tailpipe test" , but when i went to a STAR station, my 2003 F150 (high emission profile) was still hooked up to a tailpipe sniffer. It passed with flying colors and super low numbers. But i was under the impression that it would be the new OBDII test.

I was planning on asking the shop if they have dealt with any cars that they thought or knew had an aftermarket tune, and what information they had, but since they weren't running the new OBDII test, i didnt think it was worth asking.

Just thought I'd share, and make this whole thing even more confusing.
I read online that California won't be doing new smog tests everywhere until mid year.
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California will do anything to take $ from her citizens. That's why I left.

My high flow cats are more efficient than stock, produce lower emissions and are overall better for air quality... and illegal (ONLY IN CALIFORNIA.)

It has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with the fact that the people who write the laws can't even change their own oil let alone make informed decisions about emissions. They really only are looking for regulations which will bring revenue. Its just another tax. Don't bother trying to look for reasons.

I live in Colorado now. The only thing i didn't like about California was the Californians. the only thing I don't like about Colorado is the Californians. They wrote a bunch of insane laws which made their state uninhabitable and so they are all moving here and are f'ing up out laws now too (gun control in Colorado WHAT?. legalizing pot WHAT?!)

I can see where this is all headed. I can ether buy a Prius, some organic tofu, and kiss all my freedoms goodbye, or I can move to Texas, establish residency and vote for secession. The Nancy Pelosi's of the world and the uninformed lemmings who vote for her will have your mods, your guns, and ultimately your freedoms faster than you can say Fascist State.

Rant Complete.

BTW, My berk HFC/CBE passed no problem last time I did it in California. That was about a year ago.
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I read on the Stillen website that their intake system is CARB approved. But their exhaust system doesn't list CARB approval. Does anyone know if there are any exhaust systems that are CARB approved?
Exhausts don’t need to be CARB legal like somebody else has stated already. As far as yes they do. uhhh no they actually don’t. Just need to be under 95db. Technically in California you can’t modify your exhaust period but if under 95db & not super loud you have nothing to worry about. Why is everybody tripping off the new smog laws are cars are too new to be smogging anytime soon anyways right. Won’t the 09’s be due to smog in 2016 by then we would really know what’s up.
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My high flow cats are more efficient than stock, produce lower emissions and are overall better for air quality... and illegal (ONLY IN CALIFORNIA.)

It has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with the fact that the people who write the laws can't even change their own oil let alone make informed decisions about emissions. They really only are looking for regulations which will bring revenue. Its just another tax. Don't bother trying to look for reasons.

BTW, My berk HFC/CBE passed no problem last time I did it in California. That was about a year ago.
LOL @ your rant btw, thanks


Your HFCs are DEFINITELY NOT more efficient (for HP yes), they definitely do not produce less emissions, they produce a decent amount more actually.

Btw, in TX, you have to go through emissions testing EVERY year, so in that respect they're getting taxed more than us.

And if your Berk HFCs passed, you went to the laziest tester in CA, I have never ran into a lazy tester. Wait... Why did you even need to smog your car? LOL


On another note, damn you superior Coloradoian!!! LOL (I think I'm pretty cool in CA, lol, not ALL of us suck!!! ;-( If you ever need a place to stay, shoot me a PM)
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Won’t the 09’s be due to smog in 2016 by then we would really know what’s up.
It's ON the 6th year, and every 2 years thereafter. So... 2015~
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Btw, this won't take into affect until 2014

If you have to smog this year it will be the same sniffer test that it has always been
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Btw, this won't take into affect until 2014

If you have to smog this year it will be the same sniffer test that it has always been
I don't think its going to be completely rolled out until 2014, I have heard there are a few places with the new testing but they are ref stations.
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LOL @ your rant btw, thanks


Your HFCs are DEFINITELY NOT more efficient (for HP yes), they definitely do not produce less emissions, they produce a decent amount more actually.

Btw, in TX, you have to go through emissions testing EVERY year, so in that respect they're getting taxed more than us.

And if your Berk HFCs passed, you went to the laziest tester in CA, I have never ran into a lazy tester. Wait... Why did you even need to smog your car? LOL


On another note, damn you superior Coloradoian!!! LOL (I think I'm pretty cool in CA, lol, not ALL of us suck!!! ;-( If you ever need a place to stay, shoot me a PM)
I do love a good rant!

I grew up in California, all my best friends live in California and the people are fine and friendly and fun. Sorry if I implies otherwise. The politicians and politics and regulatory overreach in California are what suck.

The guys at my favorite mod shop in San Jose told me I I had any problems at smog, they keep some stock cats around to get the test done, but that they had never had a problem with a smog fail from Berk HFC's yet. (They do a lot of em) he also told my it era legal of your stockers were somehow damaged (like during removal? lol)

And now that you mention it the smog check I did was in Colorado, the guy said it was extremely clean and I was under the impression that since HFC work under lower dynamic pressure and flow rate, the were both more efficient from a fuel economy perspective (minor sure, but still) also they had more time to fully 'catalyze' the exhaust passing them, hence my more efficient and cleaner comment. Now they *are* loud so I guess noise pollution could be considered.

Thanks for the invite and thanks for getting a laugh from my rant.

Obviously I'm a libertarian.
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So my 2009 will be screwed with LTH? But I may be okay with a P.O. Box? That is, of course, if I am still in CA when that time comes. Speaking of, aren't cars smogged on their opposite year of make? I believe odd year cars are done in even years. So would a 2009 be due in 2016?
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To sum it up, the entire program is really to get old cars and illegally modified cars off the roads or fixed. The finally got with the times and are trusting the built in emissions equipment on modern cars.
This is correct and has a lot to do with the NAAQS (federal air quality standards). It isn't at all about getting more money out of people. I know that's what some want to believe, and in a way it is related to money (highway dollars and other forms of federal $), but not the way some think. On some environmental things, CA is stricter than federal standards and that is a matter of choice.
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So my 2009 will be screwed with LTH? But I may be okay with a P.O. Box? That is, of course, if I am still in CA when that time comes. Speaking of, aren't cars smogged on their opposite year of make? I believe odd year cars are done in even years. So would a 2009 be due in 2016?
Mine is 2009 and is due in 2015.
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This is correct and has a lot to do with the NAAQS (federal air quality standards). It isn't at all about getting more money out of people. I know that's what some want to believe, and in a way it is related to money (highway dollars and other forms of federal $), but not the way some think. On some environmental things, CA is stricter than federal standards and that is a matter of choice.
Young people probably don't remember LA air quality through the 80's. Since it isn't terrible anymore, then smog testing must just be for the money..

If people want to know what LA used to be like, they should visit Beijing in summer now.
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Young people probably don't remember LA air quality through the 80's. Since it isn't terrible anymore, then smog testing must just be for the money..

If people want to know what LA used to be like, they should visit Beijing in summer now.
Some people like chewable air.
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Young people probably don't remember LA air quality through the 80's. Since it isn't terrible anymore, then smog testing must just be for the money..

If people want to know what LA used to be like, they should visit Beijing in summer now.
born in 1983 myself and hell yes i remember LA air quality back then all the way through till the beginning of the 90's, used to always hear reports on the news of how the smog was causing alot of cases of asthma and cancer and all that crap, the way it is now you dont hear many of those reports anymore like you used to.
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Young people probably don't remember LA air quality through the 80's. Since it isn't terrible anymore, then smog testing must just be for the money..

If people want to know what LA used to be like, they should visit Beijing in summer now.
if carb really cared about air quality, they would just require a tail pipe inspection and check engine light check, no visual inspections

who really gives a rats *** what's under the hood if its not polluting

honestly they are chasing around the 1% who mod cars when they should really go after the 99% of people who daily drive their old *** beater car that pollutes more than any modern era car would
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