California new smog laws

Masterbeatty · 01-07-2013, 12:57 AM

Another reason why californian's are a bunch of communist!

HArturo319 · 01-07-2013, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

To sum it up, the entire program is really to get old cars and illegally modified cars off the roads or fixed. The finally got with the times and are trusting the built in emissions equipment on modern cars.

I believe the entire reason is driven by money.

luigi90210 · 01-07-2013, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HArturo319

I believe the entire reason is driven by money.

it makes sense, that is probably why E85 conversions are illegal here

mickey · 01-07-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

This is true but they are all out in the middle of no where. Like if I moved to elcentro I would never have to smog my car unless I sold it, but who wants to live 3hours away from civilization?(and that driving at 80mph as well)

True, but in California you are able to register a car to a po box.

luigi90210 · 01-08-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey

True, but in California you are able to register a car to a po box.

you can?

link please

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nvm i found it, i never knew you could do that here in california

Gauge · 01-10-2013, 03:03 PM

So I might be moving to L.A. soon. So I could get a P.O. box in one of these counties and register my car to the P.O. box. Then I wouldn't have to pass smog?

TBH these rules are really retarded. Can't they just make a mileage restriction on non smog compliant cars. So people can have "for fun" cars, and daily drivers separate and not on the same restrictions.

Here in dane county madison we don't even have vehicle inspections. I can basically do wtf ever I want to my car and no one can say ****. We have decibel laws but if you're not a prick no one cares about them. Same with license plate laws. The general rule of thumb is, if you're not bothering anyone, no one cares.

Nissanboy · 01-18-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

So I might be moving to L.A. soon. So I could get a P.O. box in one of these counties and register my car to the P.O. box. Then I wouldn't have to pass smog?

TBH these rules are really retarded. Can't they just make a mileage restriction on non smog compliant cars. So people can have "for fun" cars, and daily drivers separate and not on the same restrictions.

Here in dane county madison we don't even have vehicle inspections. I can basically do wtf ever I want to my car and no one can say ****. We have decibel laws but if you're not a prick no one cares about them. Same with license plate laws. The general rule of thumb is, if you're not bothering anyone, no one cares.

I'm on the same boat, might be moving somewhere in the Orange County later this year...and I have LTH....

Quartermaine · 01-18-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey

True, but in California you are able to register a car to a po box.

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

you can?

link please

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nvm i found it, i never knew you could do that here in california

I am sorry, but I couldn't find it. Link please? Thanks!

Akmcmahon · 01-20-2013, 05:30 PM

I was curious about some of this as well. If all bolt ons are CARB legal 50 state, shouldn't be a problem. I was more curious about those that have FI upgrades. How are you guys getting past the smog nazis? I'd love to go FI, but have been down that road of not being able to get it smogged without an arm or a leg. Major deterrent.

luigi90210 · 01-20-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Quartermaine

I am sorry, but I couldn't find it. Link please? Thanks!

Registering a vehicle without a fixed address, how? (drivers, Texas, California) - Sports cars, sedans, coupes, SUVs, trucks, motorcycles, tickets, dealers, repairs, gasoline, drivers... - City-Data Forum

sorry for the late reply, apparently a bunch of RV owners use PO boxes as fixed addresses and if they can do it, we can as well XD

Menace370Z · 01-24-2013, 12:38 AM

I read on the Stillen website that their intake system is CARB approved. But their exhaust system doesn't list CARB approval. Does anyone know if there are any exhaust systems that are CARB approved?

Gauge · 01-29-2013, 10:36 AM

Based on the lack of response, my assumption is that how they get around the law is not legal.

I still don't understand why they just can't let you register a "fun car" with restrictions on yearly mileage to keep that title. With the title you can bypass the smog rules, because if you're not driving it much, your total yearly contribution is probably less than a DD anyways.

I understand the reason behind the laws, however, not having any exemptions is stupid as the DD is the problem, not historical cars, weekend cars, etc.

What I'm going to do is find a local car club (hopefully a Z one) and ask what they do, then do that. Or just find a way myself by asking around at local shops. One thing is for sure, my car will have F.I. at some point, and it's not going to be stillens SC... so .... yea....

I mean my car is already probably not SMOG legal but yea...

MR_X · 02-22-2013, 11:53 AM

Thanks God for Imperial County SMOG check is not required.

adampetrasek · 02-22-2013, 03:07 PM

According to the link at the begging of this tread; "2000 and newer vehicles no longer require tailpipe test" , but when i went to a STAR station, my 2003 F150 (high emission profile) was still hooked up to a tailpipe sniffer. It passed with flying colors and super low numbers. But i was under the impression that it would be the new OBDII test.

I was planning on asking the shop if they have dealt with any cars that they thought or knew had an aftermarket tune, and what information they had, but since they weren't running the new OBDII test, i didnt think it was worth asking.

Just thought I'd share, and make this whole thing even more confusing.

luigi90210 · 04-30-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

Based on the lack of response, my assumption is that how they get around the law is not legal.

I still don't understand why they just can't let you register fun car" with restrictions on yearly mileage to keep that title. With the title you can bypass the smog rules, because if you're not driving it much, your total yearly contribution is probably less than a DD anyways.

I understand the reason behind the laws, however, not having any exemptions is stupid as the DD is the problem, not historical cars, weekend cars, etc.

What I'm going to do is find a local car club (hopefully a Z one) and ask what they do, then do that. Or just find a way myself by asking around at local shops. One thing is for sure, my car will have F.I. at some point, and it's not going to be stillens SC... so .... yea....

I mean my car is already probably not SMOG legal but yea...

Just register your car in another county that is smog free. That technically isn't illegal but it is a loophole.

I don't know what part of socal you are going to but if its LA, orange county, and temulica county, then cops will be writing you ref tickets like no tomorrow even for stupid **** like a KN pod filter(that literally happened to me because my air filter didn't have a carb sticker)

Im actually going with the stillen kit for that exact reason, plus the guys at stillen said if i wanted to modify the kit, they wouldnt remove the carb sticker

Welcome to the peoples republic of kalifornia though.

01-07-2013, 12:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
Masterbeatty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Whales Vagina Posts: 4,586 Drives: the speed limit... Rep Power: 122867	Another reason why californian's are a bunch of communist! __________________ 2011 MB 6MT Masterbeatty journal

01-10-2013, 03:03 PM	#21 (permalink)
Gauge Track Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Madison WI Posts: 867 Drives: 2012 370Z Nismo PW Rep Power: 15	So I might be moving to L.A. soon. So I could get a P.O. box in one of these counties and register my car to the P.O. box. Then I wouldn't have to pass smog? TBH these rules are really retarded. Can't they just make a mileage restriction on non smog compliant cars. So people can have "for fun" cars, and daily drivers separate and not on the same restrictions. Here in dane county madison we don't even have vehicle inspections. I can basically do wtf ever I want to my car and no one can say ****. We have decibel laws but if you're not a prick no one cares about them. Same with license plate laws. The general rule of thumb is, if you're not bothering anyone, no one cares. __________________ I am a demon bolt slayer.

01-29-2013, 10:36 AM	#27 (permalink)
Gauge Track Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Madison WI Posts: 867 Drives: 2012 370Z Nismo PW Rep Power: 15	Based on the lack of response, my assumption is that how they get around the law is not legal. I still don't understand why they just can't let you register a "fun car" with restrictions on yearly mileage to keep that title. With the title you can bypass the smog rules, because if you're not driving it much, your total yearly contribution is probably less than a DD anyways. I understand the reason behind the laws, however, not having any exemptions is stupid as the DD is the problem, not historical cars, weekend cars, etc. What I'm going to do is find a local car club (hopefully a Z one) and ask what they do, then do that. Or just find a way myself by asking around at local shops. One thing is for sure, my car will have F.I. at some point, and it's not going to be stillens SC... so .... yea.... I mean my car is already probably not SMOG legal but yea... __________________ I am a demon bolt slayer.

02-22-2013, 03:07 PM	#29 (permalink)
adampetrasek Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 283 Drives: 370Z 40thAnniversary Rep Power: 14	According to the link at the begging of this tread; "2000 and newer vehicles no longer require tailpipe test" , but when i went to a STAR station, my 2003 F150 (high emission profile) was still hooked up to a tailpipe sniffer. It passed with flying colors and super low numbers. But i was under the impression that it would be the new OBDII test. I was planning on asking the shop if they have dealt with any cars that they thought or knew had an aftermarket tune, and what information they had, but since they weren't running the new OBDII test, i didnt think it was worth asking. Just thought I'd share, and make this whole thing even more confusing. __________________ 370Z Photo Log \| Flickr \| AdamPetrasek.com

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