BEWARE: member JOONBUGG

DJcuetip · 11-25-2009, 11:08 PM

I am in a hurry to go somewhere but he wrote me a bad check of 800$ and is avoiding all calls now

Name he gave me on the Check:

Joon Myong
I have two contact numbers for 2 cell phones that are now turned off/disconnected.

primary: 909-730-7585
909-684-6902

I want to file a police report, does anyone know the steps in doing so? I will be receiving the bad check in the mail soon and will have further details when i get back.

If anyone has any advise please let me know! Sucks when you try to help ppl out you cant trust anyone..

DJcuetip · 11-25-2009, 11:11 PM

First trace of number came up with shady info.. attached is a screen print..

So many names under one number, and address seems to be a hall for UCR

ill try to get 2nd trace soon but im in a hurry for holidays

nogoodname · 11-25-2009, 11:35 PM

What did you sell to the guy??

That's why ppl should always ask for a cashier's/certified cheque.

I would go to your local police station.

cab83_750 · 11-25-2009, 11:57 PM

Sorry about the sale.

Cash is king nowadays and I always deal in person either buying or selling.

Btw I read that even certified checks are sometimes no good. There were cases wherein the bank honored the ck then after a few days they find out that it is no good. So they are left with no choice but to charge you.

KillerBee370 · 11-26-2009, 12:10 AM

We need a bit more info if we are to get started here.

What was sold?
Did you meet this person face to face or just online?
Did you try those numbers beforehand and did they work?

His last activity on this site was 2 days ago but he's been a member since Sept. and it would appear that his account is still active. Perhaps AK can provide an IP number. This would help nail down just what area code he is operating a computer from as he has a great many listed under his "about me" section in his profile page here. A side note is that his last activity took place at 4:06 AM. Kind of an odd hour to be net cruising.

If you're going to use Intellius or another search site, you need to search the name (this will require a small fee) not just a number as there is usually different people listed for a number. If in fact the name is accurate and not a false alias, then Intellius will nail down as much information that you are willing to pay for. Name, address, phone are usually first on the list for pretty cheap.

Does he have or has he told you of any websites of his? It's fairly easy to get a domain holders name, address and phone from that if he is the domain holder.

Don't worry. We'll get him. But before we head out with pitchforks and torches, maybe he just wasn't on top of how much funds were in his account? Are the numbers disconnected? or does it just go straight to voicemail like the phones are simply turned off?

Where did you ship the item/s?

VCuomo · 11-26-2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab83_750

Sorry about the sale.

Cash is king nowadays and I always deal in person either buying or selling.

Btw I read that even certified checks are sometimes no good. There were cases wherein the bank honored the ck then after a few days they find out that it is no good. So they are left with no choice but to charge you.

You are correct - cashier's checks and certified checks are really no different than a personal check. They can all be forged or cancelled after issuance.

A US Postal Order is probably the safest "check" - they can't be easily cancelled or faked. Best is cash, next best is having the money direct-wired to your account (and don't provide the merchandise until you verify that the money has actually been deposited).

KillerBee370 · 11-26-2009, 12:36 AM

Paypal or nuthin (except cash of course)

antennahead · 11-26-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo

You are correct - cashier's checks and certified checks are really no different than a personal check. They can all be forged or cancelled after issuance.

A US Postal Order is probably the safest "check" - they can't be easily cancelled or faked. Best is cash, next best is having the money direct-wired to your account (and don't provide the merchandise until you verify that the money has actually been deposited).

A cashiers check will virtually NEVER be cancelled after issuance, "if" it was issued by the bank. People tend to confuse that issue with a "forgery" or "stolen" check, that will not be honored by the bank, because it was never issued by them from real funds at the request of the account holder. The real reason these days to not take a "cashiers check" from someone you don't or barely know is because of forgery. With todays technology it is very easy for criminals to create fake cashiers checks right down to the magnetic encoding ink at the bottom that has the account information on it.

ducky · 11-26-2009, 05:36 AM

Damn..sorry to hear DJ...like killerbee said..paypal is the best way..

DJcuetip · 11-26-2009, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370

We need a bit more info if we are to get started here.

What was sold?
Did you meet this person face to face or just online?
Did you try those numbers beforehand and did they work?

His last activity on this site was 2 days ago but he's been a member since Sept. and it would appear that his account is still active. Perhaps AK can provide an IP number. This would help nail down just what area code he is operating a computer from as he has a great many listed under his "about me" section in his profile page here. A side note is that his last activity took place at 4:06 AM. Kind of an odd hour to be net cruising.

If you're going to use Intellius or another search site, you need to search the name (this will require a small fee) not just a number as there is usually different people listed for a number. If in fact the name is accurate and not a false alias, then Intellius will nail down as much information that you are willing to pay for. Name, address, phone are usually first on the list for pretty cheap.

Does he have or has he told you of any websites of his? It's fairly easy to get a domain holders name, address and phone from that if he is the domain holder.

Don't worry. We'll get him. But before we head out with pitchforks and torches, maybe he just wasn't on top of how much funds were in his account? Are the numbers disconnected? or does it just go straight to voicemail like the phones are simply turned off?

Where did you ship the item/s?

My ACT clutch was sold to him.. heres the story short.. and its kind of my fault for trusting ppl too much.. so how it all started was he told me he wanted to clutch and he had cash ready (the clutch was located in irvine at my parents house) he told me he would arrive at 11 am.. then 3 am.. then 8 am.. and flaked the whole time.. btw which ruined my parents day cause they were waiting on him all day.

a couple days later, I was at my parents pad and waited for him to come pick it up but just like last time, he flaked and finally called me once i was already on my way down to sd... at that point i was fed up with everything so i said if you want the clutch, you can deposit it into my account and I will have the clutch ready for you at my house to pick up. The next morning he deposited a check (not cash like i thought he was going to deposit) and gave me a call.. i responded that I would only let him pick it up once it clears. 2 days later it clears on my online statement, and I went into Chase to verify that it cleared. Both the teller and a personal banker told me it cleared so I gave him the ok to go pick it up. Both my parents met him, said he's about 5'5", Asian looking ,medium frame and very short hair. The day he picked up the clutch he called me with both numbers I provided. the primary number he turned off, and i have been calling this number everyday and he actually picked up today twice and hung up, then turned the phone off again. The second number says "the user is not accepting calls this moment" so i know he is avoiding me.

It really is my fault and i feel somewhat the banks fault for not notifying their customers, when they should be the experts. I came in recently and they are putting it on me saying that its my fault for authorizing the deposit, however both employees told me it was cleared and good to go.. rather then letting me know it actually takes 11 days to see if a check clears or not.

I will be getting the check hear shortly, and will be filing a case with the fontana police right after the holidays. I will take the check to citibank and verify if its a real account or whatever.. and other help would be great from ppl.. if i could get the ip that would help also in my report for police. Thanks again everyone, i learned my lesson this time, but little does he know im not the type to just let things blow by.. this will not end til i get whats mine.

AK370Z · 11-26-2009, 06:06 AM

I have just sent him a pm asking to reply in the thread. He has 24 hours to reply. If he does not comply, I will reveal his location.

AK

ricky bobby · 11-26-2009, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJcuetip

My ACT clutch was sold to him.. heres the story short.. and its kind of my fault for trusting ppl too much.. so how it all started was he told me he wanted to clutch and he had cash ready (the clutch was located in irvine at my parents house) he told me he would arrive at 11 am.. then 3 am.. then 8 am.. and flaked the whole time.. btw which ruined my parents day cause they were waiting on him all day.

a couple days later, I was at my parents pad and waited for him to come pick it up but just like last time, he flaked and finally called me once i was already on my way down to sd... at that point i was fed up with everything so i said if you want the clutch, you can deposit it into my account and I will have the clutch ready for you at my house to pick up. The next morning he deposited a check (not cash like i thought he was going to deposit) and gave me a call.. i responded that I would only let him pick it up once it clears. 2 days later it clears on my online statement, and I went into Chase to verify that it cleared. Both the teller and a personal banker told me it cleared so I gave him the ok to go pick it up. Both my parents met him, said he's about 5'5", Asian looking ,medium frame and very short hair. The day he picked up the clutch he called me with both numbers I provided. the primary number he turned off, and i have been calling this number everyday and he actually picked up today twice and hung up, then turned the phone off again. The second number says "the user is not accepting calls this moment" so i know he is avoiding me.

It really is my fault and i feel somewhat the banks fault for not notifying their customers, when they should be the experts. I came in recently and they are putting it on me saying that its my fault for authorizing the deposit, however both employees told me it was cleared and good to go.. rather then letting me know it actually takes 11 days to see if a check clears or not.

I will be getting the check hear shortly, and will be filing a case with the fontana police right after the holidays. I will take the check to citibank and verify if its a real account or whatever.. and other help would be great from ppl.. if i could get the ip that would help also in my report for police. Thanks again everyone, i learned my lesson this time, but little does he know im not the type to just let things blow by.. this will not end til i get whats mine.

wow that sucks. Not cool

370Zsteve · 11-26-2009, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJcuetip

I will be getting the check hear shortly, and will be filing a case with the fontana police right after the holidays.

You sound very naive. Why would you wait to file a police report? By the time you get off your butt, this guy could be in Taiwan.

BobDigi5060 · 11-26-2009, 08:57 AM

Bummer.. It's a small world I'm sure you cali peeps will run into that fool sooner or later.

ZKindaGuy · 11-26-2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo

You are correct - cashier's checks and certified checks are really no different than a personal check. They can all be forged or cancelled after issuance.

A US Postal Order is probably the safest "check" - they can't be easily cancelled or faked. Best is cash, next best is having the money direct-wired to your account (and don't provide the merchandise until you verify that the money has actually been deposited).

This is why I only deal in COD. It forces both sides to have to give up the goods. The buyer has to hand over cash before the Post Office ever lets them take ownership of the goods being bought.

And it separates right away the scams from the honest folks as the scammer won't consider doing a COD deal and says "NO" immediately.

I have been doing it since 1997 and never got scammed.

11-25-2009, 11:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
DJcuetip Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA Posts: 704 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 260	BEWARE: member JOONBUGG I am in a hurry to go somewhere but he wrote me a bad check of 800$ and is avoiding all calls now Name he gave me on the Check: Joon Myong I have two contact numbers for 2 cell phones that are now turned off/disconnected. primary: 909-730-7585 909-684-6902 I want to file a police report, does anyone know the steps in doing so? I will be receiving the bad check in the mail soon and will have further details when i get back. If anyone has any advise please let me know! Sucks when you try to help ppl out you cant trust anyone..

11-25-2009, 11:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 417	Sorry about the sale. Cash is king nowadays and I always deal in person either buying or selling. Btw I read that even certified checks are sometimes no good. There were cases wherein the bank honored the ck then after a few days they find out that it is no good. So they are left with no choice but to charge you. Last edited by cab83_750; 11-26-2009 at 12:08 AM.

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ducky Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SinCity Posts: 437 Drives: 370z and s2000 Rep Power: 16	Damn..sorry to hear DJ...like killerbee said..paypal is the best way..

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