Obama's inaugural choice sparks outrage

BanningZ · 12-20-2008, 08:36 PM

First off I'm bothered that we have an Inaugural Prayer. wtf? Seems weird that its not being questioned, that we are mixing church and state as the first act of a new administration.

Secondly. There were a lot of people during the civil rights movement of the 1950's, 60s, and early 70's that claimed it was their personal belief that Blacks were not equal to whites, or that blacks should not be integrated into public schools, and other public institutions. They said it wasn't discrimination, it was just their personal belief, but today we call those people bigots. This is not by any means an attack on anyone here and their beliefs but remember that as time moves on, people reflect of their past beliefs and reconsider them.
Gays and Lesbians are people that deserve every right that any straight people deserve.
Gays and Lesbians overwhelmingly voted for Obama, and to have a person like Warren, with such discriminatory beliefs make Obama's inaugural prayer is pretty insulting to the very people that helped get him elected.

just my two cents.

Edit: SnakeBitten, no you are not the Worst person in th woooorrrllldd! LOL. I think you made some very valid points. I actually would not have included my first part about inagural prayer if I had seen your post first. Opinions are like a55holes, we all have...etc. Good post.

SnakeBitten · 12-21-2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

First off I'm bothered that we have an Inaugural Prayer. wtf? Seems weird that its not being questioned, that we are mixing church and state as the first act of a new administration.

Secondly. There were a lot of people during the civil rights movement of the 1950's, 60s, and early 70's that claimed it was their personal belief that Blacks were not equal to whites, or that blacks should not be integrated into public schools, and other public institutions. They said it wasn't discrimination, it was just their personal belief, but today we call those people bigots. This is not by any means an attack on anyone here and their beliefs but remember that as time moves on, people reflect of their past beliefs and reconsider them.
Gays and Lesbians are people that deserve every right that any straight people deserve.
Gays and Lesbians overwhelmingly voted for Obama, and to have a person like Warren, with such discriminatory beliefs make Obama's inaugural prayer is pretty insulting to the very people that helped get him elected.

just my two cents.

Edit: SnakeBitten, no you are not the Worst person in th woooorrrllldd! LOL. I think you made some very valid points. I actually would not have included my first part about inagural prayer if I had seen your post first. Opinions are like a55holes, we all have...etc. Good post.

Hehe...Thanks. BTW I always have a problem with the Gay struggle being equated with the Black struggle. Totally different things. But I understand why the Gays and every other minority group hitches a ride on the Black Struggle Civil Rights bandwagon. I just hope we dont see NAMBLA or beastiality lovers on that bandwagon. Dont know if they have enough room left in that long azzed name the Gays have for there foundation

BanningZ · 12-21-2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

Hehe...Thanks. BTW I always have a problem with the Gay struggle being equated with the Black struggle. Totally different things. But I understand why the Gays and every other minority group hitches a ride on the Black Struggle Civil Rights bandwagon. I just hope we dont see NAMBLA or beastiality lovers on that bandwagon. Dont know if they have enough room left in that long azzed name the Gays have for there foundation

ouch. Now don't go equating gays and pedophilia. Studies have shown that it is primarily striaght men that get into pedophilia because of previous Sex abuse when they were young.

I can agree that the civil rights comparison can be abused, just like the Nazi comparison (see: Godwin's law) but I truly believe in this case it is very valid. They are a respectable group of people vieing for the same rights that the rest of us have and wish to continue enjoying. Either way I like to play devils advocate, and can see both sides in this(within reason). i personally still see denying marriage to the gay community as discrimination.

SnakeBitten · 12-21-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

ouch. Now don't go equating gays and pedophilia. Studies have shown that it is primarily striaght men that get into pedophilia because of previous Sex abuse when they were young.

I can agree that the civil rights comparison can be abused, just like the Nazi comparison (see: Godwin's law) but I truly believe in this case it is very valid. They are a respectable group of people vieing for the same rights that the rest of us have and wish to continue enjoying. Either way I like to play devils advocate, and can see both sides in this(within reason). i personally still see denying marriage to the gay community as discrimination.

I was marely stating that anything that wasnt formerly the "norm" now has one blanket in the Gay and Lesbian transgender blah blah blah. That is one long name and I dont remember all of the "special" orientation groups they represent lol....All Im saying is it wont be long before other "special" orientation groups jump on the same bandwagon.

BTW I dont put much faith in studies. They are like dyno numbers. It can be made to show whatever it needs to to suit any agenda or popular social thinking. As an example NAMBLA did studies too with real psychologist etc and their results showed that the young men that were involved were well adjusted and benefited from that sort of deviant relationship.

See where Im coming from? I remember in the 90's when this Gay agenda really took off some scientists sympathetic to gays were finding gay fish, dogs etc

I think they are still looking for a gay gene in humans.

As a headcrack Marriage was institued by God. Homosexuality is directly opposed to Gods laws. So why should they be allowed to openly violate religious laws for there desires? Thats thumbing your nose at God and telling him to his face you know what. I guess God has no say in the matter lol. We really have become a Godless society. Ah well it was foretold. This is exactly why there should be a separation of church and state.

Anyway the reality is that it will happen. They will get Marriage. Its in keeping with the times we are living in that is if you belive in the good book.

BanningZ · 12-21-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

I was marely stating that anything that wasnt formerly the "norm" now has one blanket in the Gay and Lesbian transgender blah blah blah. That is one long name and I dont remember all of the "special" orientation groups they represent lol....All Im saying is it wont be long before other "special" orientation groups jump on the same bandwagon.

BTW I dont put much faith in studies. They are like dyno numbers. It can be made to show whatever it needs to to suit any agenda or popular social thinking. As an example NAMBLA did studies too with real psychologist etc and their results showed that the young men that were involved were well adjusted and benefited from that sort of deviant relationship.

See where Im coming from? I remember in the 90's when this Gay agenda really took off some scientists sympathetic to gays were finding gay fish, dogs etc

I think they are still looking for a gay gene in humans.

As a headcrack Marriage was institued by God. Homosexuality is directly opposed to Gods laws. So why should they be allowed to openly violate religious laws for there desires? Thats thumbing your nose at God and telling him to his face you know what. I guess God has no say in the matter lol. We really have become a Godless society. Ah well it was foretold. This is exactly why there should be a separation of church and state.

Anyway the reality is that it will happen. They will get Marriage. Its in keeping with the times we are living in that is if you belive in the good book.

Done. <<<<Atheist. I respect your views. This argument gets nowhere at this point. Peace.

SnakeBitten · 12-21-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

Done. <<<<Atheist. I respect your views. This argument gets nowhere at this point. Peace.

Cool. No worries brotha. I respect your views as well and agree we are at an impass.

BanningZ · 12-21-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

Cool. No worries brotha. I respect your views as well and agree we are at an impass.

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