is it possible to ask the forum members about ACA without being political???

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I don't know, I'm getting a strong "Fox news tells me everything I need to know, and Jebus makes my laws" vibe here.

I think I might have many here who have the same questions/concerns that I have.

After some research & calls to my friends at NSA I heard that many low earners & no earners who try to get free XXXXXXX care are diverted/told to go to Medicaid.

It seems that having more people applying for free XXXXXX care than signing on to pay, would not be a good thing.

I thought Medicaid was for people that contribute????

Medicaid or Medicare, who cares, they are going to go bankrupt anyway.

CHUCK don't you pay taxes???

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

I think I might have many here who have the same questions/concerns that I have.

After some research & calls to my friends at NSA I heard that many low earners & no earners who try to get free XXXXXXX care are diverted/told to go to Medicaid.

It seems that having more people applying for free XXXXXX care than signing on to pay, would not be a good thing.

I thought Medicaid was for people that contribute????

Medicaid or Medicare, who cares, they are going to go bankrupt anyway.

CHUCK don't you pay taxes???

Full facepalm here. Who's getting anything for free under the ACA? Nothing is free. Medicaid has always been where people with little income go. Nothing new.

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Full facepalm here. Who's getting anything for free under the ACA? Nothing is free. Medicaid has always been where people with little income go. Nothing new.

Then why all the past speeches about XXXXXXcare passing so tens of millions of people that can't afford/don't have medical insurance can be covered. Wasn't that the whole point of all this?????

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

Then why all the past speeches about XXXXXXcare passing so tens of millions of people that can't afford/don't have medical insurance can be covered. Wasn't that the whole point of all this?????

You didn't read a single word of the Wikipedia breakdown of the ACA, did you?

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You didn't read a single word of the Wikipedia breakdown of the ACA, did you?

Guilty....

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

Guilty....

Then stop being ignorant of the issue and educate yourself. It's not a good law in any sense of the word, but it's far from what Fox has you believing.

[cossie1600]

See what I mean, now it is attacking the poors, leetchers and accuse people for not paying taxes. All coming from someone who has no health insurance

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Then stop being ignorant of the issue and educate yourself. It's not a good law in any sense of the word, but it's far from what Fox has you believing.

I try to watch MSNBC & CNN with Cuomo hosting. Cuomo doesn't know much & MSNBC always has a bunch of people who I never heard off giving odd explanations & views. FOX same old thing over & over. The only thing about FOX is that they are not afraid to tackle stories that the rest are afraid to touch. Like why after we were promised justice for the Benghazi attack, we didn't try to get the attackers. Not even ONE guy & we know where they are. Seems like we lost a lot of our freedoms, like knowing what's going on.

Where do you get news? That's why I like threads like this. We can find things out, discuss them & maybe learn.

I can't right now find out how many people have signed on to the new XXXXXplan???

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

Where do you get news? That's why I like threads like this. We can find things out, discuss them & maybe learn.

Step one, turn off the TV. Condensing complex issues down into talking points between commercial breaks leads to leaving out important details. Read. If you read enough stories on the same issue from all ends of the political spectrum, you can identify the bias that the mainstream media adds in to everything.

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by cossie1600

See what I mean, now it is attacking the poors, leetchers and accuse people for not paying taxes. All coming from someone who has no health insurance

I don't think that's what I did or am doing^^^^^

How & where our tax money is spend is as important as what tires are good & how much they cost.

Do you just follow??? Do what you're told????? Don't you think???

[Cmike2780]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

I don't think that's what I did or am doing^^^^^

How & where our tax money is spend is as important as what tires are good & how much they cost.

Do you just follow??? Do what you're told????? Don't you think???

I wouldn't preach about people just "following" when it's pretty clear you're just following what the news pundits say.

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I wouldn't preach about people just "following" when it's pretty clear you're just following what the news pundits say.

I watch Morning Joe on MSNBC. I think I really know a lot about the world & life. I lived on 4 different continents & I speak more than just English I also have a honorable discharge from the U.S. Navy & go to a VA hospital for psycho help I ain't no dummy Spelling ?????

[Cmike2780]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

What's the difference if we bought & paid for private care ourselves last year & today making payments to Obamacare????

Besides not having the govt. involved/getting bigger, & having the problems enrolling on line. Oh, also having a $500 deductible instead of a $5,000 deductible. AGAIN, I'm failing in understanding this whole thing.

Just remembered(honest) Now we'll pay more for others that don't work to have/share our health care plan. Very nice....

https://www.healthcare.gov/

You should really look at what the ACA does before passing any claims.
-the enrolling problems are due to high traffic. It basically means a lot of people are either enrolling or logging on to the site.
-The deductible depends on coverage and insurance carrier. You can't compare someone's insurance with currently a $500 deductible to one with a $5,000 deductible because the two are nowhere near the same level of coverage. The high deductible level will likely apply to those who'll need insurance for catastrophic care. In reality, this is actually a good thing for everyone else. People in this category would likely have been uninsured. If they end up in the hospital with a major illness or injury, they can walk out without spending a dime. I know a lot of people in the medical field and this happens a lot. Your insurance rates are high because the hospitals need to re-coup their losses. Don't you get it? We are already paying more for others. This evens the field by forcing the uninsured to pay in to the pool if they expect to have the same level of care in an emergency as the insured. There is very little effect on those that currently have insurance through their job.

[andre12031948]

I'm off topic. Sorry! After you read it, I'll delete it!!!

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

https://www.healthcare.gov/

You should really look at what the ACA does before passing any claims.
-the enrolling problems are due to high traffic. It basically means a lot of people are either enrolling or logging on to the site.
-The deductible depends on coverage and insurance carrier. You can't compare someone's insurance with currently a $500 deductible to one with a $5,000 deductible because the two are nowhere near the same level of coverage. The high deductible level will likely apply to those who'll need insurance for catastrophic care. In reality, this is actually a good thing for everyone else. People in this category would likely have been uninsured. If they end up in the hospital with a major illness or injury, they can walk out without spending a dime. I know a lot of people in the medical field and this happens a lot. Your insurance rates are high because the hospitals need to re-coup their losses. Don't you get it? We are already paying more for others. This evens the field by forcing the uninsured to pay in to the pool if they expect to have the same level of care in an emergency as the insured. There is very little effect on those that currently have insurance through their job.

Thank you.