Syria: Chemical weapons

Chuck33079 · 08-28-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

BTW, no one has mentioned Israel, yet

That's because that's the point where this thread will turn from civil discussion to monkeys throwing poo at each other. It is borderline impossible to have a rational discussion about Israel and our backing of them.

6spd · 08-28-2013, 11:03 AM

True that, moving on then!

I think it's a crying shame that the media is so far left that they sweep under the rug the fact that the rebels are Al Qaeda for the most part. Doing so keeps more of the dumb masses from realizing that we'd be aiding the terrorist group we've been fighting for over a decade...

Chuck33079 · 08-28-2013, 11:07 AM

But there's bad things happening on the TV! We've got to do something! There's children over there!

6spd · 08-28-2013, 11:10 AM

Yep its all in the name of the children....

Chuck33079 · 08-28-2013, 11:11 AM

We don't get the majority of our oil from the ME anyway. It's the damn speculators that are going to use Syria as a reason to run up the cost of oil.

Chuck33079 · 08-28-2013, 11:14 AM

The Saudis always pretend to be our friends, and then **** us in the *** every chance they get.

eastwest2300 · 08-28-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The Saudis always pretend to be our friends, and then **** us in the *** every chance they get.

6spd · 08-28-2013, 11:16 AM

Ala Osama

Chuck33079 · 08-28-2013, 11:19 AM

I think, at this point, the only way out of that mess is total noninvolvement in any affairs over there. If people want to help out, give money to the Red Cross.

6spd · 08-28-2013, 11:21 AM

Ron Paul came to early.

m4a1mustang · 08-28-2013, 11:37 AM

It's curious that many believe we are actually getting involved to help civilians there. If we were, we'd have intervened a hundred thousand deaths ago. This is typical American involvement in global affairs. We want to shape the region in the way we see best fitting of our interests. Syria is just another piece on the board.

m4a1mustang · 08-28-2013, 11:40 AM

Also, Asma Assad is pretty good-looking.

m4a1mustang · 08-28-2013, 11:43 AM

Also, IBTL. Politics is bad joo joo and a good way to turn friends into enemies, or frenemies, or friends with benefits.

eastwest2300 · 08-28-2013, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Also, IBTL. Politics is bad joo joo and a good way to turn friends into enemies, or frenemies, or friends with benefits.

Cmike2780 · 08-28-2013, 12:18 PM

I think we can all agree that lives are being lost needlessly. I think we can all agree that war is messy, bloody, barbaric, inhumane and innocent, defenseless lives are often the most in harms way. You can argue that guns have killed more people in history than all weapons of mass destruction combined. Whatever the case, we shouldn't just ignore this. It's not about a "red line" or death tolls. It's about putting all the BS aside and doing something about it. People say Chemical weapons have "only" killed this many vs....whatever. The thing is, where DO you draw the line? It's a slippery slope. Would you be okay if the US dropped a nuke to teach them a lesson? I don't know the answers. ...and to be honest, I barely know the history and facts of the region. All I know is, I see a pile of dead men, women and children. Even if they were all gunned down, there's nothing okay about that. We don't have to be the world police, but we can't just look away. That not right and doesn't solve anything....but then again, neither will firing missiles. This is a tough call with no right answer.

Does the US want to establish some control in the region? Of course it does. It's a volatile region where the consequences of the wrong people in power effects us. It's why Iran is a threat. It's why 9/11 took place. Walking away and making some popcorn while thousands of civilians die? ...that's just f'cked up no matter how you look at it.

Yeah, this thread should be locked.

08-28-2013, 11:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	True that, moving on then! I think it's a crying shame that the media is so far left that they sweep under the rug the fact that the rebels are Al Qaeda for the most part. Doing so keeps more of the dumb masses from realizing that we'd be aiding the terrorist group we've been fighting for over a decade... __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-28-2013, 11:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	But there's bad things happening on the TV! We've got to do something! There's children over there! __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-28-2013, 11:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Yep its all in the name of the children.... __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-28-2013, 11:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	We don't get the majority of our oil from the ME anyway. It's the damn speculators that are going to use Syria as a reason to run up the cost of oil. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-28-2013, 11:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	The Saudis always pretend to be our friends, and then ** us in the * every chance they get. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-28-2013, 11:16 AM	#8 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Ala Osama __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-28-2013, 11:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I think, at this point, the only way out of that mess is total noninvolvement in any affairs over there. If people want to help out, give money to the Red Cross. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-28-2013, 11:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Ron Paul came to early. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

08-28-2013, 11:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	It's curious that many believe we are actually getting involved to help civilians there. If we were, we'd have intervened a hundred thousand deaths ago. This is typical American involvement in global affairs. We want to shape the region in the way we see best fitting of our interests. Syria is just another piece on the board. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

08-28-2013, 11:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Also, Asma Assad is pretty good-looking. tibal likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

08-28-2013, 11:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Also, IBTL. Politics is bad joo joo and a good way to turn friends into enemies, or frenemies, or friends with benefits. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

08-28-2013, 12:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I think we can all agree that lives are being lost needlessly. I think we can all agree that war is messy, bloody, barbaric, inhumane and innocent, defenseless lives are often the most in harms way. You can argue that guns have killed more people in history than all weapons of mass destruction combined. Whatever the case, we shouldn't just ignore this. It's not about a "red line" or death tolls. It's about putting all the BS aside and doing something about it. People say Chemical weapons have "only" killed this many vs....whatever. The thing is, where DO you draw the line? It's a slippery slope. Would you be okay if the US dropped a nuke to teach them a lesson? I don't know the answers. ...and to be honest, I barely know the history and facts of the region. All I know is, I see a pile of dead men, women and children. Even if they were all gunned down, there's nothing okay about that. We don't have to be the world police, but we can't just look away. That not right and doesn't solve anything....but then again, neither will firing missiles. This is a tough call with no right answer. Does the US want to establish some control in the region? Of course it does. It's a volatile region where the consequences of the wrong people in power effects us. It's why Iran is a threat. It's why 9/11 took place. Walking away and making some popcorn while thousands of civilians die? ...that's just f'cked up no matter how you look at it. Yeah, this thread should be locked. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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