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Originally Posted by wstar Armed citizens reduce crime, the statistics are clear. First off more half of my state is liberal, we have concealed weapon permits here, I have my
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First off more half of my state is liberal, we have concealed weapon permits here, I have my own guns that are registered and I have absolutely no reason to uses them other than to go out and have fun shooting a a stump or set of targets.
Please don't lump Oregon in to the places you claim are so different then Canada. Canadians are not a different species from a strange planet. Have you been there? I have many times both, East coast, West coast, and in the middle. Also lots of people in Canada own guns. I support the NRA and the right to bear arms but out of control, rampant violence does not exist in my state or for that matter any state (at least that I'm aware of). Making comments like that give people from other countries the opinion that we are ALL gun toting rednecks. Most U.S. gun owners are responsible people who aren't running around afraid of the government and crazy criminals. The violence in our country is in no way to a point, nor has it been, where we all need guns to fight off the hordes of criminals. Secondly where are you getting your statistics for violence reducing when more people have guns? BTW A statistical analysis of statistical analysis said that 70% of statistics are always wrong. Wrap your brain around that. lol. Most statistical evidence is swayed or improperly recorded when doing studies. Think I'm wrong ask a sociologist. ![]() . Last edited by BanningZ; 04-22-2009 at 07:15 AM. |
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The only stats I've looked at involved Florida and Texas after passing concealed carry. In both cases, the crime rates dropped after but not to a great degree. This is only ancillary data at best but it did answer the charges that crime would skyrocket or nearly cease to exist that both sides were claiming before the new laws were passed. It was close enough to a wash to tell me that that issue had little bearing on what actually happens. My take is that if you assume most people are law-abiding, the government has no business telling us whether we can possess guns or not. They certainly do need to take care of the few bad apples out there that abuse the right. Plainly, this is how the founding fathers viewed the government, a restricted entity the worked for the people and didn't control them. If enough people decide that guns and society just don't mix, there is a perfectly acceptable way to achieve that. It's called a Constitutional Amendment and bears as much weight as the rest of the Constitution.
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