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k20z3 · 05-02-2012, 07:12 PM

Clint Earhart | Fashion Photographer > new long of the before and after

Cmike2780 · 05-02-2012, 07:21 PM

Goes to show you can't trust a photo these days...for all we know, you photoshopped her wiener out.

LunaZ · 05-02-2012, 07:22 PM

You got your wish, Speedy! LOL!

m4a1mustang · 05-02-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Goes to show you can't trust a photo these days...for all we know, you photoshopped her wiener out.

So true!

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k20z3 · 05-02-2012, 07:25 PM

Behahahahahah!!

KillerBee370 · 05-03-2012, 08:22 PM

Specifically, I am trying to shoot some rings and other heavy, small items in water using strobes.

The problem I am encountering is that once the item is dropped, it's blurred from the speed of decent.

Question: Is it possible to capture a crisp, clear image given the nature of the objects? Or is it only bouyant objects that photograph well because they sort of "stop" once they hit the water long enough to be photographed clearly?

Thoughts?

Example 1. A .40 mm cartridge dropped into the water tank with manual settings at: shutter-160 f/14. Lens is my 100mm f/2.8 mounted to my 50D. The strobes are about half power (I've tried lowest power and highest power... all the same thing) I've tinkered with the shutter speed but it's not really the camera stopping the action, it's the strobes and besides, the shutter starts to creep into the shot at 200 or higher.

Notice the shell is blurred as it's on it's way down gaining speed as it goes.

These two shots are only a comparison between two different lens's AND using an object that floats demonstrating that it stops it's decent right as I click the shutter and viola... in focus. Both are unretouched photos straight out of the camera except for resizing. The first shot is my 100mm f/2.8 shot at f/14 with shutter @ 160:

The next shot is with my 17-85mm f/4-5.6 attached. It's focal length set at 50mm and the same f stop and shutter speed apply:

I was just interested in seeing what the difference was as far as clarity goes. As you can see, not much. Strobes kind of even things out in that regard.

A shot of the setup:
Simple setup
-1 small soft box
-1 barn door w/ grid
-camera with tripod
-small aquarium with about 1/2 water
-stand holding a black board behind aquarium (or white, whichever)

Any help is appreciated!

LunaZ · 05-03-2012, 08:31 PM

It's got to be the speed of the object.
What I would try (but I'm a novice, so this may be a dumb idea) is shooting at the higher speed, and frame up your shot planning to crop out the dreaded black bar you get at 200 or 250.
Maybe less ambient light in your setup so the sensor doesn't "see" the bullet moving after the strobe fires?

LunaZ · 05-03-2012, 08:32 PM

Instead of water, drop the bullet or ring into a more viscous solution?

LunaZ · 05-03-2012, 09:04 PM

I was messing around with a new softbox, so Mrs. LunaZ humoured me by sitting on the stairs with her dinner.
Then the vultures arrived.

onzedge · 05-08-2012, 09:36 PM

Here is one my son Colin shot:

Dallaz · 05-03-2012, 09:10 PM

The only thing that's going to completely freeze it would be roughly a 250th or faster, which obviously can't be used, but I think it is the flashes that are hindering this shoot. Most strobes when set at minimum output have a flash sync speed of a 250th a second I believe but maybe I'm just thinking pop up flash.

LunaZ · 05-03-2012, 09:18 PM

I wasn't going to say it, but since Dallaz mentioned something, I can do 1/250 on my setup without seeing the shutter curtain.

KillerBee370 · 05-03-2012, 10:56 PM

Yes further testing is neccessary.

Thanks guys.

Dallaz · 05-03-2012, 11:00 PM

You know we got your back!

KillerBee370 · 05-03-2012, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallaz

You know we got your back!

!

I'll post up further examples as I get 'em...

05-02-2012, 07:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	Clint Earhart \| Fashion Photographer > new long of the before and after __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

05-02-2012, 07:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Goes to show you can't trust a photo these days...for all we know, you photoshopped her wiener out. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

05-02-2012, 07:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 513	You got your wish, Speedy! LOL! __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

05-02-2012, 07:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
k20z3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Denver CO Age: 34 Posts: 2,146 Drives: 2006 Civic SI HFP Rep Power: 405	Behahahahahah!! __________________ 2006 RALLYE RED HONDA CIVIC SI HFP Clint's Helpful Photoshop Hints!

05-03-2012, 08:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 52 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 322	Question concerning high speed Specifically, I am trying to shoot some rings and other heavy, small items in water using strobes. The problem I am encountering is that once the item is dropped, it's blurred from the speed of decent. Question: Is it possible to capture a crisp, clear image given the nature of the objects? Or is it only bouyant objects that photograph well because they sort of "stop" once they hit the water long enough to be photographed clearly? Thoughts? Example 1. A .40 mm cartridge dropped into the water tank with manual settings at: shutter-160 f/14. Lens is my 100mm f/2.8 mounted to my 50D. The strobes are about half power (I've tried lowest power and highest power... all the same thing) I've tinkered with the shutter speed but it's not really the camera stopping the action, it's the strobes and besides, the shutter starts to creep into the shot at 200 or higher. Notice the shell is blurred as it's on it's way down gaining speed as it goes. These two shots are only a comparison between two different lens's AND using an object that floats demonstrating that it stops it's decent right as I click the shutter and viola... in focus. Both are unretouched photos straight out of the camera except for resizing. The first shot is my 100mm f/2.8 shot at f/14 with shutter @ 160: The next shot is with my 17-85mm f/4-5.6 attached. It's focal length set at 50mm and the same f stop and shutter speed apply: I was just interested in seeing what the difference was as far as clarity goes. As you can see, not much. Strobes kind of even things out in that regard. A shot of the setup: Simple setup -1 small soft box -1 barn door w/ grid -camera with tripod -small aquarium with about 1/2 water -stand holding a black board behind aquarium (or white, whichever) Any help is appreciated!

05-03-2012, 08:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 513	It's got to be the speed of the object. What I would try (but I'm a novice, so this may be a dumb idea) is shooting at the higher speed, and frame up your shot planning to crop out the dreaded black bar you get at 200 or 250. Maybe less ambient light in your setup so the sensor doesn't "see" the bullet moving after the strobe fires? __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

05-03-2012, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 513	Instead of water, drop the bullet or ring into a more viscous solution? __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

05-03-2012, 09:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 513	I was messing around with a new softbox, so Mrs. LunaZ humoured me by sitting on the stairs with her dinner. Then the vultures arrived. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

05-08-2012, 09:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684737	Here is one my son Colin shot: __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

05-03-2012, 09:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dallaz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: North Dallas Posts: 1,272 Drives: 09MontereyBlu370z6MT Rep Power: 16	The only thing that's going to completely freeze it would be roughly a 250th or faster, which obviously can't be used, but I think it is the flashes that are hindering this shoot. Most strobes when set at minimum output have a flash sync speed of a 250th a second I believe but maybe I'm just thinking pop up flash. __________________ AeroJacket Lip Kit \| GTR switch \| NISMO S-Knob \| Blacked-Out-EVERYTHING\| 5% Tint \| Carbon Fangs/Upper Trim \| VOSSEN CV3's \| Painted Headlights \| CF Diffuser

05-03-2012, 09:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 513	I wasn't going to say it, but since Dallaz mentioned something, I can do 1/250 on my setup without seeing the shutter curtain. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

05-03-2012, 10:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 52 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 322	Yes further testing is neccessary. Thanks guys.

05-03-2012, 11:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dallaz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: North Dallas Posts: 1,272 Drives: 09MontereyBlu370z6MT Rep Power: 16	You know we got your back! __________________ AeroJacket Lip Kit \| GTR switch \| NISMO S-Knob \| Blacked-Out-EVERYTHING\| 5% Tint \| Carbon Fangs/Upper Trim \| VOSSEN CV3's \| Painted Headlights \| CF Diffuser

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