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BeachZTT · 08-01-2011, 09:05 PM

It's good stuff! I need to get back to shooting for myself a little. We have been so busy with client stuff... We have real jobs, the photography is our side gig.

Here is one of my favorite macro shots because I had no idea the spider was there until editing. And if you look closely, the dragonfly has been eating Cheetos.

Nick911sc · 08-01-2011, 09:07 PM

Love the shot

I have been waiting forever to get a proper macro shot of a dragon fly

Photography is also one of my many hobbies lol

I sell insurance and the only photography involved in that is photo inspections with a POS point and shoot lol

BeachZTT · 08-01-2011, 09:29 PM

Thanks!

I hear ya! I am not permitted to have a camera anywhere near my day job.

Nitex · 08-01-2011, 09:38 PM

Beach and nick really good stuff guys! Haha the spider below the dragon fly is epic.

haha and im really just a few days into the whole thing. Ive owned decent cameras in the past but never really got into it.

Yeah some of the ferry shots had some noise, many of the close ups also. But im sure the canon 55-250 at full zoom will have some noise. Maybe it will improve when i have a tripod or better lens for such things

Nick911sc · 08-01-2011, 09:46 PM

I agree that a lot of shots (of mine) inherently have noise/grain in them. I usually take it out in light room.

And I noticed that shot of the seagull you posted, you were using your camera set at F/9. I wouldn't really use the 250mm end of the lens past 8 and the 50mm past 5.6. Those are the optimal F stops(for that specific lens) before you actually lose picture quality.

phelan · 08-01-2011, 09:52 PM

is there a list or general guideline for optimal or max f/stops you want to be looking at for lenses?

i guess my eyes aren't trained enough yet, i don't see a lot of noise in those pics. and mine have noise, but i usually go light on post processing so meh. it's all still a work in progress.

Nick911sc · 08-01-2011, 09:56 PM

Every lens is different, if you wanna be really anal about it you can look up specific MTF charts online that show the optimal F stop sharpness of a lens. But generally the rule of thumb is...Whatever the open F stop of a lens is add 2 to it and that should be around optimal.

obviously this rule doesn't work for everything. macro for instance needs a very high F stop to get a clear photo since you're focusing so close. But that's the rule I follow for most lenses and it generally works.

For example... My 1.8 prime would be optimal around 4.. etc

kenchan · 08-01-2011, 10:41 PM

wow nick! you da man.

nice shots.

kenchan · 08-01-2011, 10:44 PM

beach- nice! that dragon fly has come nice colors... i lol'ed at spider.

very impressive shots.

kenchan · 08-01-2011, 10:50 PM

kenchan's garage at night...

kenchan · 08-01-2011, 11:35 PM

quick question for those of you who take picts of cars. where exactly are you placing the focal point? in my shots i want to get the entire car in focus so usually focus on the front fender just aft of the headlight and use f/10 or higher.

any recommendations? thanks!

phelan · 08-01-2011, 11:51 PM

Depends on the shot I want to take. Front three quarters if that makes sense I use the side marker and a high f stop.

Alchemy · 08-02-2011, 12:43 AM

My contribution for the day...

phelan · 08-02-2011, 01:38 AM

minor edits. can't get the bike one to not look faded. it looked okay on my LCD too. meh.

alchemy - beautiful flag silhouette shot.

Parkerman · 08-02-2011, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

quick question for those of you who take picts of cars. where exactly are you placing the focal point? in my shots i want to get the entire car in focus so usually focus on the front fender just aft of the headlight and use f/10 or higher.

any recommendations? thanks!

How far away are you generally standing from the car?

That is at 2.8 at 24mm... Standing roughly 10-15ft from the car I would say. Now it does change things a little when the car is more at an angle.

Here is a link to a larger version if you want to look a little closer.

http://www.parkerphotog.com/photos/i...nXXcdrG-X3.jpg

*edit*
I didn't actually make my point... haha. The further you stand back.. the more you can fit into your focal plane.

08-01-2011, 09:05 PM	#241 (permalink)
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08-01-2011, 09:38 PM	#244 (permalink)
Nitex Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 848 Drives: '13 GTI Stage 2 UNI Rep Power: 16	Beach and nick really good stuff guys! Haha the spider below the dragon fly is epic. haha and im really just a few days into the whole thing. Ive owned decent cameras in the past but never really got into it. Yeah some of the ferry shots had some noise, many of the close ups also. But im sure the canon 55-250 at full zoom will have some noise. Maybe it will improve when i have a tripod or better lens for such things __________________ 2013 Drivers ED GTI \| Stage 2 Unitronic Last edited by Nitex; 08-01-2011 at 09:40 PM.

08-01-2011, 09:52 PM	#246 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	is there a list or general guideline for optimal or max f/stops you want to be looking at for lenses? i guess my eyes aren't trained enough yet, i don't see a lot of noise in those pics. and mine have noise, but i usually go light on post processing so meh. it's all still a work in progress. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

08-01-2011, 11:51 PM	#252 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	Depends on the shot I want to take. Front three quarters if that makes sense I use the side marker and a high f stop. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

08-01-2011, 09:07 PM	#242 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	Love the shot I have been waiting forever to get a proper macro shot of a dragon fly Photography is also one of my many hobbies lol I sell insurance and the only photography involved in that is photo inspections with a POS point and shoot lol

08-01-2011, 09:46 PM	#245 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	I agree that a lot of shots (of mine) inherently have noise/grain in them. I usually take it out in light room. And I noticed that shot of the seagull you posted, you were using your camera set at F/9. I wouldn't really use the 250mm end of the lens past 8 and the 50mm past 5.6. Those are the optimal F stops(for that specific lens) before you actually lose picture quality.

08-01-2011, 09:56 PM	#247 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	Every lens is different, if you wanna be really anal about it you can look up specific MTF charts online that show the optimal F stop sharpness of a lens. But generally the rule of thumb is...Whatever the open F stop of a lens is add 2 to it and that should be around optimal. obviously this rule doesn't work for everything. macro for instance needs a very high F stop to get a clear photo since you're focusing so close. But that's the rule I follow for most lenses and it generally works. For example... My 1.8 prime would be optimal around 4.. etc

08-01-2011, 10:41 PM	#248 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	wow nick! you da man. nice shots.

08-01-2011, 10:44 PM	#249 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	beach- nice! that dragon fly has come nice colors... i lol'ed at spider. very impressive shots.

08-01-2011, 10:50 PM	#250 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	kenchan's garage at night...

08-01-2011, 11:35 PM	#251 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	quick question for those of you who take picts of cars. where exactly are you placing the focal point? in my shots i want to get the entire car in focus so usually focus on the front fender just aft of the headlight and use f/10 or higher. any recommendations? thanks!

08-02-2011, 12:43 AM	#253 (permalink)
Alchemy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 4,855 Drives: to acquire tickets Rep Power: 3524	My contribution for the day... __________________ Ryan 314WHP \| 260LB-FT \| STILLEN \| KONI \| SWIFT \| STOPTECH \| Z1 \| PROJECT MU \| CNT \| UPREV \| FORGESTAR \| BRIDGESTONE \| PWJDM \| ENEOS \| MOTUL

08-02-2011, 01:38 AM	#254 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	minor edits. can't get the bike one to not look faded. it looked okay on my LCD too. meh. alchemy - beautiful flag silhouette shot. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence. Last edited by phelan; 08-02-2011 at 01:41 AM.

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