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NXTAZEE · 10-18-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

For those of you who have done shoots using models with the cars, what kind of tips can you give for proper composition, lighting, background, poses, etc? My fiancee and I are going to do a shoot together real soon, maybe this weekend, but I must say I am lacking in the model photography skills department.

Have a look at this.

Motorcar Photography Tips... Condensed for Printout

Cmike2780 · 10-18-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

For those of you who have done shoots using models with the cars, what kind of tips can you give for proper composition, lighting, background, poses, etc? My fiancee and I are going to do a shoot together real soon, maybe this weekend, but I must say I am lacking in the model photography skills department.

Just remember to give her exact directions on how you want to compose the shot. It's one of those things that you really have to try a lot of different compositions to get a few good ones. The technical stuff is easier, just remember the car is the subject, not the girl. Unless of course that was your intent. Bounce the light as much as you can to get softer shadows. Night shots are cool, but a lot tougher when people are involved. Long exposure shots with someone standing perfectly still is a challenge if you want to give that a shot. Before setting out, it would be advisable to scope out possible locations before hand to get a feel for the type of emotion you want to convey. That way you don't waste your time if in the end you aren't satisfied with the results.

memorylasts · 10-18-2010, 07:52 PM

Hmm...like everyone is saying you probable should look into off camera lighting if you really want to get into night shots. Personally I like them better then day shots, but that is me, they also end up costing more interms of gear, but even during day shots you might need some extra light.

I would look at trying to do a setup of Alienbees.com the b800 lights, i havnt used these yet but have seen amazing photos come out with the use of them. You can get the triggers there also.

Currently I use
Canon 50D
Canon 28-105mm IS
Canon EF 50mm 1.4 Prime(~88mm on crop sensor a little deep for car photos imo)
2x 430EXII(lighting)
Pocket Wizards wireless triggering system (2x Flex, 1x Mini)

I also am planning on swaping some of my lighting set to get up on the Alienbees lights if I cant start producing what i want with the 430EXII's.

All in all lighting gets expensive, and hurts the mod fund. Also maybe if you pick up a lens with a lower f-stop value it might help... i usually shoot the 50mm at 1.8-2.2 unless the setting is pitch black then might bump it down. This also creates the DOF effect of having your subject on lock and the backgound blurred. Also, might want to try and keep your ISO down to 100 or close to it, usually helps if you dont already do that.

hope this helps.

6spd · 10-18-2010, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memorylasts

Hmm...like everyone is saying you probable should look into off camera lighting if you really want to get into night shots. Personally I like them better then day shots, but that is me, they also end up costing more interms of gear, but even during day shots you might need some extra light.

I would look at trying to do a setup of Alienbees.com the b800 lights, i havnt used these yet but have seen amazing photos come out with the use of them. You can get the triggers there also.

Currently I use
Canon 50D
Canon 28-105mm IS
Canon EF 50mm 1.4 Prime(~88mm on crop sensor a little deep for car photos imo)
2x 430EXII(lighting)
Pocket Wizards wireless triggering system (2x Flex, 1x Mini)

I also am planning on swaping some of my lighting set to get up on the Alienbees lights if I cant start producing what i want with the 430EXII's.

All in all lighting gets expensive, and hurts the mod fund. Also maybe if you pick up a lens with a lower f-stop value it might help... i usually shoot the 50mm at 1.8-2.2 unless the setting is pitch black then might bump it down. This also creates the DOF effect of having your subject on lock and the backgound blurred. Also, might want to try and keep your ISO down to 100 or close to it, usually helps if you dont already do that.

hope this helps.

i would love to get some good external lighting, but i cant invest that large sum of money in one specific thing right now. i'll probably just get a better lens for now and deal with the lighting later. im just going to stick with the kind of shots im good at for now instead of getting in over my head.

memorylasts · 10-18-2010, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd

i would love to get some good external lighting, but i cant invest that large sum of money in one specific thing right now. i'll probably just get a better lens for now and deal with the lighting later. im just going to stick with the kind of shots im good at for now instead of getting in over my head.

Best way to do it! Take your time. Learn the gear then expand.

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 10-25-2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memorylasts

Hmm...like everyone is saying you probable should look into off camera lighting if you really want to get into night shots. Personally I like them better then day shots, but that is me, they also end up costing more interms of gear, but even during day shots you might need some extra light.

I would look at trying to do a setup of Alienbees.com the b800 lights, i havnt used these yet but have seen amazing photos come out with the use of them. You can get the triggers there also.

Currently I use
Canon 50D
Canon 28-105mm IS
Canon EF 50mm 1.4 Prime(~88mm on crop sensor a little deep for car photos imo)
2x 430EXII(lighting)
Pocket Wizards wireless triggering system (2x Flex, 1x Mini)

I also am planning on swaping some of my lighting set to get up on the Alienbees lights if I cant start producing what i want with the 430EXII's.

All in all lighting gets expensive, and hurts the mod fund. Also maybe if you pick up a lens with a lower f-stop value it might help... i usually shoot the 50mm at 1.8-2.2 unless the setting is pitch black then might bump it down. This also creates the DOF effect of having your subject on lock and the backgound blurred. Also, might want to try and keep your ISO down to 100 or close to it, usually helps if you dont already do that.

hope this helps.

Alienbees FTW! They are here in Nashville. They make great products.

HKYStormFront · 10-20-2010, 08:51 PM

shot the Z1 Motorsports shop cars today, the widebody Z32 and the 370z... look for a thread next week when i get home lol

6spd · 10-21-2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

shot the Z1 Motorsports shop cars today, the widebody Z32 and the 370z... look for a thread next week when i get home lol

awesome!

antman22 · 10-25-2010, 10:51 PM

been lookin for a decent p&s for the times where lugging around my d90 isn't feasible...just picked up a canon s95, should get to my place in a few days.

everyone i know that has a canon p&s has been pretty happy with theirs', so im expecting good things. fast lens (f/2.0 @ 28mm), shoots in raw, good low light images, so im a happy camper. its a little more than what i wanted to pay for a p&s, but i figure this one should last me awhile and i won't feel have the feeling of regret when i take photos with my current p&s and wish that i had my dslr.

Cmike2780 · 10-25-2010, 11:04 PM

6spd,

Just to carry over the discussion from the other thread regarding ISO settings. Keeping it low creates a much sharper image. Here's an image I took last 4th of July just to give you an idea.

ISO 200, f/22 , 15 second exposure (no post processing):

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 10-25-2010, 11:13 PM

What tripod and head combo?

6spd · 10-26-2010, 01:22 PM

oooooo, very nice!

JACKPAC · 10-26-2010, 02:24 PM

I use a Canon XTi, and I think my favorite lens is also the cheapest I've purchased. The old nifty 50mm f1.4

HKYStormFront · 10-26-2010, 02:38 PM

you mean the f/1.8?

JACKPAC · 11-26-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

you mean the f/1.8?

No, I didn't go that cheap

10-18-2010, 07:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
memorylasts A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,125 Drives: Cars... Rep Power: 18	Hmm...like everyone is saying you probable should look into off camera lighting if you really want to get into night shots. Personally I like them better then day shots, but that is me, they also end up costing more interms of gear, but even during day shots you might need some extra light. I would look at trying to do a setup of Alienbees.com the b800 lights, i havnt used these yet but have seen amazing photos come out with the use of them. You can get the triggers there also. Currently I use Canon 50D Canon 28-105mm IS Canon EF 50mm 1.4 Prime(~88mm on crop sensor a little deep for car photos imo) 2x 430EXII(lighting) Pocket Wizards wireless triggering system (2x Flex, 1x Mini) I also am planning on swaping some of my lighting set to get up on the Alienbees lights if I cant start producing what i want with the 430EXII's. All in all lighting gets expensive, and hurts the mod fund. Also maybe if you pick up a lens with a lower f-stop value it might help... i usually shoot the 50mm at 1.8-2.2 unless the setting is pitch black then might bump it down. This also creates the DOF effect of having your subject on lock and the backgound blurred. Also, might want to try and keep your ISO down to 100 or close to it, usually helps if you dont already do that. hope this helps. __________________ somewhat-journal-thingy

10-20-2010, 08:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	shot the Z1 Motorsports shop cars today, the widebody Z32 and the 370z... look for a thread next week when i get home lol __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now Last edited by HKYStormFront; 10-20-2010 at 08:54 PM.

10-25-2010, 11:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dark_Sub_Rosa Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 190 Drives: 2015 Mustang GT PP Rep Power: 17	What tripod and head combo? __________________

10-26-2010, 01:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	oooooo, very nice! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-26-2010, 02:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	you mean the f/1.8? __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-25-2010, 10:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
antman22 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 597 Drives: 09 PG 370z 7AT Rep Power: 17	been lookin for a decent p&s for the times where lugging around my d90 isn't feasible...just picked up a canon s95, should get to my place in a few days. everyone i know that has a canon p&s has been pretty happy with theirs', so im expecting good things. fast lens (f/2.0 @ 28mm), shoots in raw, good low light images, so im a happy camper. its a little more than what i wanted to pay for a p&s, but i figure this one should last me awhile and i won't feel have the feeling of regret when i take photos with my current p&s and wish that i had my dslr.

10-26-2010, 02:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
JACKPAC Track Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 516 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 17	I use a Canon XTi, and I think my favorite lens is also the cheapest I've purchased. The old nifty 50mm f1.4

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