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6spd · 10-11-2010, 10:32 AM

right, the 28-135 is USM, the other isnt. If i get an outlet to try the lens, i will do that, but if i cant try it first, i feel comfortable buying it as it is at least going to be better than the stock lens!

NXTAZEE · 10-11-2010, 11:51 AM

For anyone wanting to learn how to use a camera, shortcourses.com is an excellent place to start. It really helped me out when I got started. I shoot a Pentax K110 with an 18-55 lens. A couple years ago I added a Tamron 70-300 Di lens. Next camera will probably be a Nikon, but Pentax is really making some nice cameras now.

HKYStormFront · 10-11-2010, 12:19 PM

yea pentax has come a long way in just a few short years in DSLR's and while it's cool to have alternatives, canon and nikon (and to some degree, sony) are the big players and have the best lenses with the best glass as a rule of thumb.

spearfish25 · 10-11-2010, 01:09 PM

I've been a long time Nikon user. Both Canon and Nikon make quality products, but they have different benefits. I've always felt that Nikon makes better bodies, better AF systems, and the best button layout. Their lenses are top quality but don't fill all the focal length gaps well. Canon, on the other hand, makes quality bodies but I dislike their button configuration. Also, their AF is inferior to Nikon's. However, Canon has a lens for EVERYTHING. Their lens lineup is pretty spectacular.

I'm selling one of my lenses if anyone is interested. It's the new version of the Nikon 18-200 VR II. I received it less than a year ago as a gift and rarely touch it given the other lenses in my bag (17-55/2.8, 70-200/2.8). It's a pristine lens for anyone looking for an all-purpose walk around lens. Best price I can find is B&H at $760 for the US version. Mine is also the US version and I have the warranty papers so you can get the remaining four years of coverage. Asking $640 + shipping.

wilsonp · 10-11-2010, 06:19 PM

6spd:

I presume you prefer the price of the first? Oh, I see - you have the prices reversed.

They are hardly comparable lenses - they really solve different problems entirely.

The 28-135mm is a walk around lens for a full frame camera. On a APS-C camera, it is a normal to telephoto lens. It is a very old design that was introduced in 1998. You can often get it cheaper on eBay because it is bundled as the kit lens for a number of APS-C cameras (40D, 50D, 7D), which it isn't really suited for, IMNVHO.

The 55-250mm is a kit lens companion intended as the first purchase after the camera +18-55 kit lens is purchased. It runs from mild telephoto to long telephoto. As a kit lens, it is very light, it is very inexpensive for its range, and made (mostly) of plastic, but its optical quality is pretty good.

Due to its age, the IS on the 28-135 isn't as effective (nominally 3 stops) as it is on the 55-250 (nominally 4 stops). In addition, the 28-135 is at f/5.6 at 85mm, where the 55-250 is there at 154mm, so it is slightly brighter as a telephoto lens.

Really, though, it depends on your general purpose. I'd say a 18-55/55-250 is a great combination setup. If you want a walk around lens, I personally prefer the 15-85, or even a superzoom lens.

dad · 10-29-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antman22

screw this debate, its about as bad as "manual vs auto".

Auto is for people who do not know the full functions of your equipment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM

My favorite camera…..Nikon FM

Primary thought about quality shots: it's all about the composition.

I wanted the FM, but ended up with the FM2.

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 10-29-2010, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad

Auto is for people who do not know the full functions of your equipment.

I wanted the FM, but ended up with the FM2.

I shot an FM10 during college, Illford film, Illford paper, darkroom..... ahhh those were the days.

It makes digital so much easier to understand though when you do all your own stuff on film and learn old school.

6spd · 10-11-2010, 08:43 PM

yeah, sorry, got the prices switched. Thanks wilsonp, thats quite a good explanation, I appreciate it.

I had an inexpensive 70-200 VR on my d40 and loved it. Im still going to look around at other lenses in different price ranges and do a few more shoot sessions before determining what I need.

6spd · 10-13-2010, 10:42 PM

g-damn you spammer a$$hole, this is the 5th thread of mine already.......

wilsonp · 10-13-2010, 10:44 PM

I can't figure the point though

6spd · 10-16-2010, 10:53 PM

Check out this pic I just took:

Not my best by any stretch, but my most decent night shot.

k20z3 · 08-12-2011, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd

Check out this pic I just took:

Not my best by any stretch, but my most decent night shot.

SORRY...

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HKYStormFront · 10-17-2010, 07:16 AM

car need to be brighter, background needs to be darker lol

6spd · 10-17-2010, 08:58 AM

you think so?

6spd · 10-17-2010, 05:49 PM

This one is much better

10-11-2010, 10:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	right, the 28-135 is USM, the other isnt. If i get an outlet to try the lens, i will do that, but if i cant try it first, i feel comfortable buying it as it is at least going to be better than the stock lens! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-11-2010, 11:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
NXTAZEE Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 530 Drives: 2010 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 17	For anyone wanting to learn how to use a camera, shortcourses.com is an excellent place to start. It really helped me out when I got started. I shoot a Pentax K110 with an 18-55 lens. A couple years ago I added a Tamron 70-300 Di lens. Next camera will probably be a Nikon, but Pentax is really making some nice cameras now. __________________ 2010 Carbon Silver 370Z 7AT charcoal int. sports package \| Clear Bra \| Invidia Gemini CBE \| CF B-Pillars \| CF Fangs \| CF Z emblems \| Swift Springs \| 20mm & 25mm Spacers \| SPC Camber Arms \| Brushed Aluminum shift knob

10-11-2010, 12:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	yea pentax has come a long way in just a few short years in DSLR's and while it's cool to have alternatives, canon and nikon (and to some degree, sony) are the big players and have the best lenses with the best glass as a rule of thumb. __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-11-2010, 01:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	I've been a long time Nikon user. Both Canon and Nikon make quality products, but they have different benefits. I've always felt that Nikon makes better bodies, better AF systems, and the best button layout. Their lenses are top quality but don't fill all the focal length gaps well. Canon, on the other hand, makes quality bodies but I dislike their button configuration. Also, their AF is inferior to Nikon's. However, Canon has a lens for EVERYTHING. Their lens lineup is pretty spectacular. I'm selling one of my lenses if anyone is interested. It's the new version of the Nikon 18-200 VR II. I received it less than a year ago as a gift and rarely touch it given the other lenses in my bag (17-55/2.8, 70-200/2.8). It's a pristine lens for anyone looking for an all-purpose walk around lens. Best price I can find is B&H at $760 for the US version. Mine is also the US version and I have the warranty papers so you can get the remaining four years of coverage. Asking $640 + shipping. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

10-11-2010, 06:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	6spd: I presume you prefer the price of the first? Oh, I see - you have the prices reversed. They are hardly comparable lenses - they really solve different problems entirely. The 28-135mm is a walk around lens for a full frame camera. On a APS-C camera, it is a normal to telephoto lens. It is a very old design that was introduced in 1998. You can often get it cheaper on eBay because it is bundled as the kit lens for a number of APS-C cameras (40D, 50D, 7D), which it isn't really suited for, IMNVHO. The 55-250mm is a kit lens companion intended as the first purchase after the camera +18-55 kit lens is purchased. It runs from mild telephoto to long telephoto. As a kit lens, it is very light, it is very inexpensive for its range, and made (mostly) of plastic, but its optical quality is pretty good. Due to its age, the IS on the 28-135 isn't as effective (nominally 3 stops) as it is on the 55-250 (nominally 4 stops). In addition, the 28-135 is at f/5.6 at 85mm, where the 55-250 is there at 154mm, so it is slightly brighter as a telephoto lens. Really, though, it depends on your general purpose. I'd say a 18-55/55-250 is a great combination setup. If you want a walk around lens, I personally prefer the 15-85, or even a superzoom lens. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

10-11-2010, 08:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	yeah, sorry, got the prices switched. Thanks wilsonp, thats quite a good explanation, I appreciate it. I had an inexpensive 70-200 VR on my d40 and loved it. Im still going to look around at other lenses in different price ranges and do a few more shoot sessions before determining what I need. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-13-2010, 10:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	g-damn you spammer a$$hole, this is the 5th thread of mine already....... __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-13-2010, 10:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	I can't figure the point though __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

10-16-2010, 10:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Check out this pic I just took: Not my best by any stretch, but my most decent night shot. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-17-2010, 07:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	car need to be brighter, background needs to be darker lol __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-17-2010, 08:58 AM	#14 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	you think so? __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-17-2010, 05:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	This one is much better __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

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