Pearl White 370Z

HKYStormFront · 10-07-2010, 07:41 AM

yea i always shoot RAW on AWB (though i would use a custom WB if i had a white card, i've used a friend's before), much to the dismay of my desktop lol. i recently bought a 1 TB internal hard drive dedicated just to having the various versions of photoshop and all of my image files. i hope to get a 1 TB external soon to back up those files as well.

6spd · 10-07-2010, 10:27 AM

I always shoot RAW now, jpeg just destroys pics, especially after processing.

HKYStormFront · 10-07-2010, 10:37 AM

agree

6spd · 10-07-2010, 11:33 AM

can you recommend a decent ext. flash/umbrella setup for shooting cars? I may start up a weekend business doing this, but I need to get some equipment needs in order first.

HKYStormFront · 10-07-2010, 11:46 AM

i would focus on lenses first. pick up a 50 f/1.8 (they're cheap) and start figuring out what L-glass lenses you want to have. i've currently got the 17-40 f/4 L, 28-70 f/2.8 L and the 70-200 f/4 L and they are all excellent lenses. anytime you get an L-glass lens it's going to be really good. the only one i've ever had that i didn't like was the older Mk I version of the 16-35 f/2.8 L. the 17-40 is soooo much better, thought i heard the Mk II version fixed a lot of the issues

6spd · 10-07-2010, 01:36 PM

I'll probably get the 70-200, even if I only use it at 70, I love that length for the real deep background blur and longer foreground. I always got compliments on my older pics with my d40 because people loved the blur. I appreciate the advise!

HKYStormFront · 10-07-2010, 02:03 PM

200mm @ f/4 is FTW too...

350Z Photoshoot - 6/6/10 - JPMcG Photography

Porsche Photoshoot 3-7-10 - JPMcG Photography

6spd · 10-07-2010, 02:20 PM

Wow, is that just a solid 200mm?

HKYStormFront · 10-07-2010, 02:43 PM

yup both of them iirc @ f/4, shows you what different focal lengths can look like. i like the decent bokeh but while also getting the 200mm compression in the frame. here's my list of lenses i want in my bag:

1) 70-200 f/2.8 L (one of the various ones)
2) 135mm f/2 L aka "the cream machine"
3) 200mm f/2.8 L
4) 85 f/1.2 L <--- amazing on full frame: Savannah, GA Photowalk - 4/24/10 - JPMcG Photography
5) 35 f/1.4 L

maybe later on 200 f/2 L and 300 f/2.8 L, i could probably just get a 100-400 and get what i need (for track photo's) but primes are better/baller

6spd · 10-07-2010, 04:06 PM

jeez, that quite a gold mine you've got there. I need to find something more... modest, if you know what I mean!

Dsphoto · 10-07-2010, 07:09 PM

If you want an inexpensive 70-200 the best one in our (Canon's) line is the old 70-200f4 L. You can pick one up pretty cheap. The new 70-200f2.8L IS II is the sharpest 70-200 we have ever made. I disagree about buying the 50f1.8. The 50f1.4 is a MUCH better lens and still quite reasonable. The 1.8 is very fragile. The glass is good but it doesn't take much to break it.

Regarding lighting, umbrellas are not the best way to go for highly reflective objects. The highlights thy cast are ugly. You should buy some straight lights and bounce them off show cards. You can find show cards at the set shop . For lights I use Profoto and Elinchrome. These are rather expensive but the light is really beautiful. For a starter at lower cost, I know quite a few people who use Alien Bees. There is no sync socket on the Rebel so you will need a hot shoe sync adaptor in order to sync your strobes. Do not use an optical slave to fire the strobes form your built in flash as the ETTL system emits a series of pre-flashes which will cause the strobes to fire too early. You can also use a radio slave, I use and love the Pocket Wizard but they are costly.

Dsphoto · 10-07-2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

yup both of them iirc @ f/4, shows you what different focal lengths can look like. i like the decent bokeh but while also getting the 200mm compression in the frame. here's my list of lenses i want in my bag:

1) 70-200 f/2.8 L (one of the various ones)
2) 135mm f/2 L aka "the cream machine"
3) 200mm f/2.8 L
4) 85 f/1.2 L <--- amazing on full frame: Savannah, GA Photowalk - 4/24/10 - JPMcG Photography
5) 35 f/1.4 L

maybe later on 200 f/2 L and 300 f/2.8 L, i could probably just get a 100-400 and get what i need (for track photo's) but primes are better/baller

1) the 70-200f2.8 L IS II is a great lens. The older 70-200f2.8 is no where as sharp

2) I use the 135f2 and the 200f2 for my beauty work. Both great lenses. The 135 is not too expensive and, as it has been around for a while, is available used at decent prices.

135f2.0

200f2.0

3) 200f2.8 is a sleeper. Not too popular (we don't sell very many) but a great lightweight lens. I don't use this as the new 70-200 is almost as sharp and has great IS. Also, I use the 200f2 a lot.

4) 85f1.2 is also a great lens. If you can find a used original model buy it. The glass is exactly the same as in the mk II version. The main difference is a faster focus motor (it is still a rather slow focusing lens)

5) 35f1.4 is a great lens but you should look at the new 24f1.4L It's sharper with better image quality at the edge

HKYStormFront · 10-07-2010, 10:14 PM

good to know^^

6spd · 10-08-2010, 08:02 AM

yeah, thank you for the advise!

Dsphoto · 10-08-2010, 04:33 PM

You're welcome. I work for Canon, head of pro product development. Happy to answer tech questions

10-07-2010, 07:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	yea i always shoot RAW on AWB (though i would use a custom WB if i had a white card, i've used a friend's before), much to the dismay of my desktop lol. i recently bought a 1 TB internal hard drive dedicated just to having the various versions of photoshop and all of my image files. i hope to get a 1 TB external soon to back up those files as well. __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-07-2010, 10:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	I always shoot RAW now, jpeg just destroys pics, especially after processing. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-07-2010, 10:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	agree __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-07-2010, 11:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	can you recommend a decent ext. flash/umbrella setup for shooting cars? I may start up a weekend business doing this, but I need to get some equipment needs in order first. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-07-2010, 11:46 AM	#20 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	i would focus on lenses first. pick up a 50 f/1.8 (they're cheap) and start figuring out what L-glass lenses you want to have. i've currently got the 17-40 f/4 L, 28-70 f/2.8 L and the 70-200 f/4 L and they are all excellent lenses. anytime you get an L-glass lens it's going to be really good. the only one i've ever had that i didn't like was the older Mk I version of the 16-35 f/2.8 L. the 17-40 is soooo much better, thought i heard the Mk II version fixed a lot of the issues __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-07-2010, 01:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	I'll probably get the 70-200, even if I only use it at 70, I love that length for the real deep background blur and longer foreground. I always got compliments on my older pics with my d40 because people loved the blur. I appreciate the advise! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-07-2010, 02:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	200mm @ f/4 is FTW too... 350Z Photoshoot - 6/6/10 - JPMcG Photography Porsche Photoshoot 3-7-10 - JPMcG Photography __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-07-2010, 02:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	Wow, is that just a solid 200mm? __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-07-2010, 02:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	yup both of them iirc @ f/4, shows you what different focal lengths can look like. i like the decent bokeh but while also getting the 200mm compression in the frame. here's my list of lenses i want in my bag: 1) 70-200 f/2.8 L (one of the various ones) 2) 135mm f/2 L aka "the cream machine" 3) 200mm f/2.8 L 4) 85 f/1.2 L <--- amazing on full frame: Savannah, GA Photowalk - 4/24/10 - JPMcG Photography 5) 35 f/1.4 L maybe later on 200 f/2 L and 300 f/2.8 L, i could probably just get a 100-400 and get what i need (for track photo's) but primes are better/baller __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-07-2010, 04:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	jeez, that quite a gold mine you've got there. I need to find something more... modest, if you know what I mean! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-07-2010, 07:09 PM	#26 (permalink)
Dsphoto Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Suffolk cty New York Posts: 159 Drives: 10 BC 370ZR S/T M6 Rep Power: 15	If you want an inexpensive 70-200 the best one in our (Canon's) line is the old 70-200f4 L. You can pick one up pretty cheap. The new 70-200f2.8L IS II is the sharpest 70-200 we have ever made. I disagree about buying the 50f1.8. The 50f1.4 is a MUCH better lens and still quite reasonable. The 1.8 is very fragile. The glass is good but it doesn't take much to break it. Regarding lighting, umbrellas are not the best way to go for highly reflective objects. The highlights thy cast are ugly. You should buy some straight lights and bounce them off show cards. You can find show cards at the set shop . For lights I use Profoto and Elinchrome. These are rather expensive but the light is really beautiful. For a starter at lower cost, I know quite a few people who use Alien Bees. There is no sync socket on the Rebel so you will need a hot shoe sync adaptor in order to sync your strobes. Do not use an optical slave to fire the strobes form your built in flash as the ETTL system emits a series of pre-flashes which will cause the strobes to fire too early. You can also use a radio slave, I use and love the Pocket Wizard but they are costly. __________________ 78 Z1R, '08 ZX10R, 2010 BC Roadster S/T, 6M, Stillen G2 CAI, Invidia CBE, Berk test pipes, Painted headlights (180˚Custom), JDM rear fog, B&M short shifter, Stillen front plate mount, stubby antenna, setrab oil cooler, uprev. 337rwhp 254ft/lb corrected!

10-07-2010, 10:14 PM	#28 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	good to know^^ __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

10-08-2010, 08:02 AM	#29 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	yeah, thank you for the advise! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

10-08-2010, 04:33 PM	#30 (permalink)
Dsphoto Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Suffolk cty New York Posts: 159 Drives: 10 BC 370ZR S/T M6 Rep Power: 15	You're welcome. I work for Canon, head of pro product development. Happy to answer tech questions __________________ 78 Z1R, '08 ZX10R, 2010 BC Roadster S/T, 6M, Stillen G2 CAI, Invidia CBE, Berk test pipes, Painted headlights (180˚Custom), JDM rear fog, B&M short shifter, Stillen front plate mount, stubby antenna, setrab oil cooler, uprev. 337rwhp 254ft/lb corrected!

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