Attention all CSF Owners!!!

DEpointfive0 · 08-15-2014, 12:50 PM

This is not to bash CSF in any way. I still love them and their customer support.

Hey guys,

I just recently got my new CSF radiator in stock and its waiting tomorrow's install.
As MANY of you know, that upper burp plug thing is prone to galling (destroys the threads) and either you have to retap it and PRAY there is enough material, or weld it up like Chuck did...

So before I install mine I'm going to have my machine shop make some brass/Teflon plugs (maybe some for the drain plug too)

So this is a public service announcement that I will be making a semi-limited run and I'll be selling them at "cost"
(I'm giving the money to the machine shop guys; expect $10 shipped)

If you'd like one, PM/text me

(31O)eight nine three-42O7

DEpointfive0 · 08-15-2014, 05:39 PM

No one huh?

chops · 08-15-2014, 09:19 PM

my threads were destroyed on the first screw in. the goddamn bolt head broke right off and i barely torqued it down. ended up welding the bolt in. otherwise i'd totally grab one!

DEpointfive0 · 08-15-2014, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops

my threads were destroyed on the first screw in. the goddamn bolt head broke right off and i barely torqued it down. ended up welding the bolt in. otherwise i'd totally grab one!

Yeah, it's a shittily made bolt for a great product.

The issue is that when you weld up that hole you can never "burp" the radiator, so you'll always have an air pocket in the radiator (the CSF still cools remarkably well though, lol)
If you wanna retap it, I'll hook you up!

Super Werty · 08-15-2014, 10:19 PM

pm your way!

DEpointfive0 · 08-15-2014, 10:31 PM

Holy crap I just got a BUNCH of PMs

I've confirmed it's 1 plug fits all. And I could only get my set made today because no one showed interest until 5 min ago, lol

It takes 10-15 min a piece. And rest assured I'm going to make it as cheap as possible for everyone. My dad manages the machine shop at work and my suggestion was... I'll sell them, take the guys out to lunch with the money, which I think is reasonable.

If I get a million more PMs... Maybe they'll have a few lunches, LOL

DEpointfive0 · 08-15-2014, 10:37 PM

Oh.
And guys, if your local hardware store carries stainless steel bolts, do it. No reason not to.
Somehow no where near me besides Lowe's carries a bolt that fits, and NO ONE, not even McMaster carries a stainless one...

I chose brass because it's easier to machine and it has a bit of give and is very resistant to galling.

I might have them try SS on Monday.

And Teflon ones can be made too for weight saving, lol :-p

chops · 08-15-2014, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Yeah, it's a shittily made bolt for a great product.

The issue is that when you weld up that hole you can never "burp" the radiator, so you'll always have an air pocket in the radiator (the CSF still cools remarkably well though, lol)
If you wanna retap it, I'll hook you up!

well, you can still burp it. i use this:

Amazon.com: Lisle 24610 Spill-Free Funnel: Automotive

take the radiator cap off, run the engine til coolant hits 180, run the heater on full blast for a bit, done.

chops · 08-15-2014, 11:35 PM

BTW. please be careful. it is NOT one size fits all. i had a first gen CSF and the bolt was bigger then the replacement. make sure you check your bolt sizes. both CSF's were the original, single pass design, but had different sized bolts

nomodsjk · 08-16-2014, 12:34 AM

Hey bro I have the new trip pass CSF already installed but had the local dealership do it for me which was a nightmare. I'm not sure what bolts they used and I don't know enough to even fully understand its purpose but it sounds like it wouldn't be a bad idea as a fail safe. I guess pm me and let me know how to proceed. If its only 10$ I'll bite

DEpointfive0 · 08-16-2014, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops

well, you can still burp it. i use this:

Amazon.com: Lisle 24610 Spill-Free Funnel: Automotive

take the radiator cap off, run the engine til coolant hits 180, run the heater on full blast for a bit, done.

You are definitely correct, it helps to lift the front of the car as high as possible either way, but the burp vent helps

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops

BTW. please be careful. it is NOT one size fits all. i had a first gen CSF and the bolt was bigger then the replacement. make sure you check your bolt sizes. both CSF's were the original, single pass design, but had different sized bolts

Hmmmmmm, I admit, I only tested it on my new one, but CSF told me that the drain was M10x1.25; the... extremely rude receptionist told me that she couldn't get specs for the top one.

nomodsjk · 08-16-2014, 08:25 AM

My oil temp hasn't been over 190 since I installed this radiator. Even when I'm owning rednecks in their mustangs!

DEpointfive0 · 09-17-2015, 04:58 PM

Guys, been over a year...

My machine shop has finally gotten around to it.

I'm going to have 33 bolts total. So you can either replace the top one or both.

Chuck33079 · 09-17-2015, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Guys, been over a year...

My machine shop has finally gotten around to it.

I'm going to have 33 bolts total. So you can either replace the top one or both.

Count me in for both. I had to replace my csf over the summer because of the upper drain plug again.

Z34_Nismo · 09-18-2015, 08:36 AM

Also in for both.

08-15-2014, 12:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Attention all CSF Owners!!! This is not to bash CSF in any way. I still love them and their customer support. Hey guys, I just recently got my new CSF radiator in stock and its waiting tomorrow's install. As MANY of you know, that upper burp plug thing is prone to galling (destroys the threads) and either you have to retap it and PRAY there is enough material, or weld it up like Chuck did... So before I install mine I'm going to have my machine shop make some brass/Teflon plugs (maybe some for the drain plug too) So this is a public service announcement that I will be making a semi-limited run and I'll be selling them at "cost" (I'm giving the money to the machine shop guys; expect $10 shipped) If you'd like one, PM/text me (31O)eight nine three-42O7 binary0x01 likes this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language: Last edited by DEpointfive0; 08-15-2014 at 12:55 PM.

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DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Holy crap I just got a BUNCH of PMs I've confirmed it's 1 plug fits all. And I could only get my set made today because no one showed interest until 5 min ago, lol It takes 10-15 min a piece. And rest assured I'm going to make it as cheap as possible for everyone. My dad manages the machine shop at work and my suggestion was... I'll sell them, take the guys out to lunch with the money, which I think is reasonable. If I get a million more PMs... Maybe they'll have a few lunches, LOL GaleForce and birdman71 like this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language: Last edited by DEpointfive0; 08-15-2014 at 10:55 PM.

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DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Oh. And guys, if your local hardware store carries stainless steel bolts, do it. No reason not to. Somehow no where near me besides Lowe's carries a bolt that fits, and NO ONE, not even McMaster carries a stainless one... I chose brass because it's easier to machine and it has a bit of give and is very resistant to galling. I might have them try SS on Monday. And Teflon ones can be made too for weight saving, lol :-p __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

08-15-2014, 09:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 22	my threads were destroyed on the first screw in. the goddamn bolt head broke right off and i barely torqued it down. ended up welding the bolt in. otherwise i'd totally grab one!

08-15-2014, 11:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 22	BTW. please be careful. it is NOT one size fits all. i had a first gen CSF and the bolt was bigger then the replacement. make sure you check your bolt sizes. both CSF's were the original, single pass design, but had different sized bolts

08-16-2014, 12:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
nomodsjk Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: martinsburg wv Posts: 2,073 Drives: 2011 370z MB/7at Rep Power: 19962	Hey bro I have the new trip pass CSF already installed but had the local dealership do it for me which was a nightmare. I'm not sure what bolts they used and I don't know enough to even fully understand its purpose but it sounds like it wouldn't be a bad idea as a fail safe. I guess pm me and let me know how to proceed. If its only 10$ I'll bite DEpointfive0 likes this.

08-16-2014, 08:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
nomodsjk Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: martinsburg wv Posts: 2,073 Drives: 2011 370z MB/7at Rep Power: 19962	My oil temp hasn't been over 190 since I installed this radiator. Even when I'm owning rednecks in their mustangs! jwick and DEpointfive0 like this.

09-17-2015, 04:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Guys, been over a year... My machine shop has finally gotten around to it. I'm going to have 33 bolts total. So you can either replace the top one or both. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

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