Scam Warning Thread / Bad experience with a member / bad or no shipment

[zefaulter]

Originally Posted by birdman71

Cool Now you can open a new claim regarding the condition and keep the money and the product as well

I'm sure if we get an opinion from one of the photoshop gang that can vouche for some use of the photo editing kind. Wasn't this the guy that was selling them for like $850 and said it came off of his girlfriend's Z or some bs?

I want what's fair for both parties. That would be unfair to him.

I spoke with Kevin from FI and he quoted me $325 + $70 shipping to US border for one side muffler section. I'd settle for just one side even tho the other side has a few dents too with the tip scratched up.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by zefaulter

I want what's fair for both parties. That would be unfair to him.

You are being far too generous. The other party gave up their right to fair play as soon as they photoshopped that pic.

[zefaulter]

it's 100% modified:
FotoForensics - Analysis

[Zbrah]

Originally Posted by zefaulter

it's 100% modified:
FotoForensics - Analysis

Someone explain what we're looking for? I can't see ****!

[birdman71]

Originally Posted by Zbrah

Someone explain what we're looking for? I can't see ****!

Look at the black marks on the mufflers, looks like a burn or fade tool has been used to modify any scrapes or dents in the pictures.

[zefaulter]

Originally Posted by Zbrah

Someone explain what we're looking for? I can't see ****!

Birdman is correct!

short explanation is, you're supposed to see the same amount of compression artifacts all over the photo. Instead, the photo looks "Cleaned up" in one specific area. That's how you know it's been modified.


slightly Longer explanation: Jpeg format uses a compression algorithm that introduces a specific type of artifact. Each time you save a jpg photo, more of them get added and because of that, the more you save a jpg file, the more artifacts you will have.
Now, imagine you saved this blurry not so sharp photo a bunch of times before. You edit it and save it one more time. what you did was remove those previous artifacts on a specific area you just touched up. After you save the file again, you will have a cleaner portion in your image that stands out in tests like these.


I just added some brightness to the photo so maybe it's more obvious:

[DEpointfive0]

Originally Posted by zefaulter

it's 100% modified:
FotoForensics - Analysis

Ummmmmm... The pic you posted is of the TOP of the mufflers, same as what's in the ad. The scrapes are on the bottom.

[birdman71]

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Ummmmmm... The pic you posted is of the TOP of the mufflers, same as what's in the ad. The scrapes are on the bottom.

There could have been damage to the top of the mufflers?
Let's see those videos if you still have them too Pooya, Cause if those scrapes and dents aren't in the video either that clear misrepresentation.

[zefaulter]

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Ummmmmm... The pic you posted is of the TOP of the mufflers, same as what's in the ad. The scrapes are on the bottom.

You're right **** doesn't take away from the fact that they are scraped tho

[birdman71]

Originally Posted by zefaulter

You're right **** doesn't take away from the fact that they are scraped tho

The photo forensics still shows a tampered photo though. Doesn't take away the fact that the damage we were previously talking about was on the other side of the mufflers.

[Trips]

Originally Posted by zefaulter

You're right **** doesn't take away from the fact that they are scraped tho

Who's the member?

I would like to see what he has to say.

[zefaulter]

Originally Posted by Trips

Who's the member?

I would like to see what he has to say.

He has 2013 in his name and only 4-5 posts. I looked him up before but can't seem to find it now, ill look around

[birdman71]

silly scammer photoshop is for Cooltoy!


File another claim with paypal and give them the modified picture, the quote from Kevin at FI, and give them the messages.

They have to do something at that point.

[birdman71]

You should be getting all your money back and then you'll be able to either fix those or get a new exhaust system and sell that one for profit. except not photo shopped this time

[LMBmikeZ]

Wow Zefaulter just when I thought you were gonna get it in the end…….

Now couple days later I check in and see what has gone on and cannot believe how low some people will go