Scam Warning Thread / Bad experience with a member / bad or no shipment

[dmhenderson]

Is that a knock on the bumper or the guy who painted it for you ...?

[cooltoy]

The guy that sold it also painted it.

[dmhenderson]

Oh. Lovely.

[kornflake7]

kornflake7
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: murfreesboro, tn
Posts: 91
Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z
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Humble370z
Trade 2013 nismo rims for 19" volk gt-s trade
Just wanna bump this up for everyone to see, traded with this guy for my nismo rims he sent me these rims with cheap *** tires not the ones he stated would be included. Was suppose to send lug nuts with them and $100 cash for my spacers and now he won't respond anymore! Don't anyone do business with this guy!

[Got_Z]

Thanks for the heads up! Sorry to hear what happened to you. If you paid with paypal then maybe dispute it?


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[dmhenderson]

Someone needs to sticky this post:

1) Always see what you're getting in time/date stamped pictures before you agree to buy or trade.

2) Always use paypal as your payment method with a funding source that isn't a debit card (credit card) so that you will be able to dispute charges should you be the target of a scam.

3) Always communicate ahead of time and during the sale. Work out every detail including shipping cost, condition, and damage clauses (liability) before you agree to anything.

4) Check seller's post history for prior successful trades. Not necessarily a red flag if they haven't before, but if it's their first post on the forums, you might want to reconsider.

[cooltoy]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

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2) Always use paypal as your payment method with a funding source that isn't a debit card (credit card) so that you will be able to dispute charges should you be the target of a scam.

Please explain why credit card is not a good idea?

[SouthArk370Z]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

Someone needs to sticky this post:
1) Always see what you're getting in time/date stamped pictures...
2) Always use paypal as your payment method ...
3) Always communicate ahead of time and during the sale..
4) Check seller's post history for prior successful trades...

Great advice, especially #s 2 and 4.
Always use a credit card, PayPal, or other method that will allow you to dispute charges. Never send as a (PayPal) gift - that's even worse than using a debit card (ie, no recourse at all).
Always do a web search for the seller. It can verify (but not 100%) that the seller is honest but can't always tell you if the seller is a scammer. A scammer can change usernames and sites (but it will help spot the stupid scammers ).

#1 can be faked by changing the time on the camera and/or using file editors. It's better than nothing but always be suspicious.

#3 is not 100% sure-fire but you can get a feel for the seller. If you see anything suspicious, bail out.

[SouthArk370Z]

Originally Posted by cooltoy

Please explain why credit card is not a good idea?

I read that as: Tie your PayPal account to a credit card, not a debit card.

[cooltoy]

That makes more sense.

[Trips]

Originally Posted by dmhenderson

Someone needs to sticky this post:

1) Always see what you're getting in time/date stamped pictures before you agree to buy or trade.

2) Always use paypal as your payment method with a funding source that isn't a debit card (credit card) so that you will be able to dispute charges should you be the target of a scam.

3) Always communicate ahead of time and during the sale. Work out every detail including shipping cost, condition, and damage clauses (liability) before you agree to anything.

4) Check seller's post history for prior successful trades. Not necessarily a red flag if they haven't before, but if it's their first post on the forums, you might want to reconsider.

I've made this post a separate thread sticky, and if you need to adjust it? just unlock it and re-lock when done. I don't want it open to discussion as it's only to help buyers.

[dmhenderson]

Originally Posted by cooltoy

Please explain why credit card is not a good idea?

If you can use a credit card, you should but most individuals won't (can't) accept credit cards in a person-to-person sale.

The next best thing is to use paypal funded by a credit card so that you can dispute if the sale goes bad. If you use a debit card, you have no recourse. Once paypal allows the seller to withdraw the funds from their account, there's nothing more they can do other than set the person's balance to negative. If they're a scammer, they likely don't care.

Personally, I think there should be some sort of escrow/wait period for sales like this but I don't think paypal offers that service.

[dmhenderson]

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I read that as: Tie your PayPal account to a credit card, not a debit card.

I will rephrase

[dmhenderson]

Originally Posted by Trips

I've made this post a separate thread sticky, and if you need to adjust it? just unlock it and re-lock when done. I don't want it open to discussion as it's only to help buyers.

Sweet, thanks. Edited the post a bit for clarity.

[mag_black]

So I sold my springs last week and shipped them out to the verified paypal address on the account. Today, I was told that I sent them to the wrong address and that his account is outdated. He stated I should've confirmed the address w/ him before I sent them out.

I can admit if I'm wrong, but I feel like I didn't do anything wrong. Sure, I could've confirmed w/ him, but he could've also updated his account.

Who's in the wrong here? I've been threatened w/ slandering my name on the forums and suing from his uncle -- both that I find to be comical.