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SouthArk370Z 12-10-2014 11:25 AM

The removable hard top wasn't a popular option and may make it a bit of a collectable nowadays - ie, more expensive for no performance gain. Personally, I prefer the hard top but not enough that I'd pay a lot extra for it.

The S2K does get a little light above 120 MPH or so. Spoilers might be desirable if you plan on driving very fast. If you don't get much above the speed limit, they are just more drag.

kenchan 12-10-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052653)
No way in hell. AP2 S2K's with low miles go for $20k+

My budget would be $15k

yah... should keep that $15k a little longer and save up.

czirrfb 12-10-2014 11:28 AM

Well the S2K isnt a very "fast" car in the first place, more of a quick, fun car. Unless you add a turbo then its fast haha. Same as the 350z.

czirrfb 12-10-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3052659)
yah... should keep that $15k a little longer and save up.

I dont know if I can justify spending close to $30k on a 370z when I can get the honda for under half the price and have just as much fun.

kenchan 12-10-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052665)
I dont know if I can justify spending close to $30k on a 370z when I can get the honda for under half the price and have just as much fun.

walmart shopper you are.

czirrfb 12-10-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3052675)
walmart shopper you are.

Well I suppose would you consider the 370z double the car that the S is? Is it worth double the price?

SouthArk370Z 12-10-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052677)
Well I suppose would you consider the 370z double the car that the S is? Is it worth double the price?

Depends on what you are after. It's hard to compare a current model vehicle with something from the turn of the century. The S2K is a great car but it's rather dated when it comes to engine management, traction control, &c.

1st 12-10-2014 11:48 AM

Every Penny Son! 30k on a car and don’t regret it.

Zoren 370 12-10-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052578)
The RX7 along with the Supra and NSX are iconic sports cars from Japan. The Z never hit the same status, that would be the GTR from Nissan. And the S2000 after the NSX is arguably the best sports car Honda has ever made.

RX8 is bogus.

The reason why they are called iconic cuz they don't exist anymore. The Z is bigger in a sense as still lives the tradition of the famous iconic 240Z. A fun car Period.

The GTR is in another league of ball game. No comparison to the Z's legacy.

czirrfb 12-10-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3052693)
The reason why they are called iconic cuz they don't exist anymore. The Z is bigger in a sense as still lives the tradition of the famous iconic 240Z. A fun car Period.

The GTR is in another league of ball game. No comparison to the Z's legacy.

I would say the Supra and GTR are about on the same page. I cant think of a better car from Toyota than the Supra. Well the LFA from Lexus maybe.

njobe89 12-10-2014 01:24 PM

the yugo beats all these cars

mishuko 12-10-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052722)
I would say the Supra and GTR are about on the same page. I cant think of a better car from Toyota than the Supra. Well the LFA from Lexus maybe.

you obviously haven't seen the scarlet gt...

kenchan 12-10-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052677)
Well I suppose would you consider the 370z double the car that the S is? Is it worth double the price?

i was actually comparing a new CR and 370Z base sport i have. honda's saleman failed to agree to a very reasonable cash offer i had so i hopped on over to the nissan dealer to buy my Z that same day. i was okay with either car.

honda called the next day 'ken, good news, come on down we will take your offer!' and i told him too late, i already have a brand spankin new Z in my garage..lol

he said to go return it (joke, he's sold me like 5 hondas in the past). :icon17:

kenchan 12-10-2014 02:18 PM

btw, 5yrs ago the price difference between the cr and my 6mt base-sport was like $3K or so with the Z being more expensive.

honestly if i had a choice to buy a new CR or 370Z today, i would still take the Z over the CR... and im not a "NissanFan" :ugh:

onzedge 12-10-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3052836)
btw, 5yrs ago the price difference between the cr and my 6mt base-sport was like $3K or so with the Z being more expensive.

honestly if i had a choice to buy a new CR or 370Z today, i would still take the Z over the CR... and im not a "NissanFan" :ugh:

You are not any more. Now you are Mr. Kenchan.

The 6 months in the re-education camps did you well, comrade.

kenchan 12-10-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3052843)
You are not any more. Now you are Mr. Kenchan.

The 6 months in the re-education camps did you well, comrade.

:icon17:

mishuko 12-10-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3052836)
btw, 5yrs ago the price difference between the cr and my 6mt base-sport was like $3K or so with the Z being more expensive.

honestly if i had a choice to buy a new CR or 370Z today, i would still take the Z over the CR... and im not a "NissanFan" :ugh:

don't lie... you just photoshopp'd a micra to make it look like a 09 nismo. :stirthepot:

kenchan 12-10-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3052853)
don't lie... you just photoshopp'd a micra to make it look like a 09 nismo. :stirthepot:

actually that's not photoshop... :ugh2:

mishuko 12-10-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3052858)
actually that's not photoshop... :ugh2:

:eek:


awk.... :ughdance:

totopo 12-10-2014 03:46 PM

The S2k is a great car. I love driving my brother's. It's more of a "tossable" car like the frs/brz, but with a bit more hp. The engine is definitely pretty anemic though, especially in torque when you compare it with the 3.7l. I always redline my brother's s2k wondering when the power is supposed to kick in... I would honestly have had a hard time deciding between a new s2k and a new 370.

The 370 is definitely faster on a track, but the s2k is much more lively.

The convertible part of the s2k should be part of your decision. Driving that car with the top up is miserable. Multiply the 370's blind spot by like 3x.

the s2k engine is pretty reliable though, if you can manage to find one that wasn't owned by a ricer.

280z/300zx 12-10-2014 04:44 PM

A few years ago my friend had a G35, had a few mods, dressed up real nice. At the time I had just got my 09 370z. We both started auto-x around this time on occasion for fun. He got the idea he wanted to get a S2K since it was lighter. He had the car a total of 4 weeks before selling it for a M3. His biggest complaint was that the car had no torque. Yeah, he enjoyed the weight of the car on the track but for daily driving it just wasn't strong enough. I drove the car once and agreed with him. Compared to my 370z it was no comparison. Having driven a 350z HR I'd say go for one of those instead if you can't get a 370z. I'm sure you can find a good condition 07-08 350z with low miles.

Jordo! 12-10-2014 05:10 PM

It's a great car, but very different from the Z. High revving, more similar to a MX-5 or FR-S in feel.

Also, only in soft top unless you find one with an aftermarket HT.

Like all Hondas, reliable, fun, well designed, and a wee bit pricey...

You might be able to find a 350Z for about the same money, which is (theoretically) closer to the 370Z.

I think, figure out your budget and test drive a few cars to see what best suits you.

czirrfb 12-10-2014 06:57 PM

The sales guy at the dealership keeps calling me. he wants to sell me a Used 2010 40th edition 370z 1 owner with 33k miles on it for $22k

BUT

With my crappy credit i'll be paying 11%apr interest. I told him the only way i'd buy it is if its $22k out the door with less than $400 per month on the payments.

totopo 12-10-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3053117)
The sales guy at the dealership keeps calling me. he wants to sell me a Used 2010 40th edition 370z 1 owner with 33k miles on it for $22k

BUT

With my crappy credit i'll be paying 11%apr interest. I told him the only way i'd buy it is if its $22k out the door with less than $400 per month on the payments.

Wow, no wonder they keep calling you. They would make a killing on the interest rates.

czirrfb 12-10-2014 07:38 PM

Yeah I told the dude I wanna just save $ and take care of the things hurting my credit. He says it wont raise the score much and after 1yr I can re-finance and get a lower apr.

JC-Nismo 12-10-2014 08:39 PM

Sounds like you really want the S2000 so go ahead and pull the trigger man and have a blast.

enkei2k 12-10-2014 09:21 PM

Go get a 2000 S2K. I hear those are so cool, they don't have a clock in them.

jaedub 12-10-2014 09:22 PM

I've driven s2k for many years (shared my brothers s2k). Ever since I got the Z, s2k became really slow. That being said, the 2 cars are different breed. S2k has an amazing feel to it. You can hit those corners with ease while maintaining the line and control. It's very forgiving.

On the flip side, Z can punish you. It doesn't take kindly to mistakes. However, it's fast. Faster than the s2k. Although it lacks the low center gravity feeling, like the s2k, it still gets the job done. It can pull 1+ G on skid pad unlike S2k which barely manage to hit .9

And don't judge based on a single video you posted. You have no clue what mod/drivers mod the racers have.

Bottom line, Z is faster than the s2k...track or straight. It all depends on the feeling, style, and $$.

czirrfb 12-11-2014 08:15 AM

Why are people so harsh on the S2000 for being "slow"? It's got a good amount of power stock, nothing amazing but plenty to have alot of fun with. And the car responds very well to mods. And turbo'ing it im sure is alot cheaper/easier than turbo'ing a Z car. The S is very impressive for only having a 2.0lt motor and still being able to stay neck and neck with a 3.5lt 350z.

SouthArk370Z 12-11-2014 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3053523)
Why are people so harsh on the S2000 for being "slow"? It's got a good amount of power stock, nothing amazing but plenty to have alot of fun with. And the car responds very well to mods. And turbo'ing it im sure is alot cheaper/easier than turbo'ing a Z car. The S is very impressive for only having a 2.0lt motor and still being able to stay neck and neck with a 3.5lt 350z.

The S2K IS lower power (although it does get an amazing amount out of that 2L). Some of that is made up for by lighter weight but the S2K is still a slower straight-line car. But it is also a more nimble car and tons of fun to drive.

Comparing track-modified cars to production models is nothing more than mental masturbation.

You seem to have already made up your mind so bite the bullet, get an S2K, and start having fun. :driving:

czirrfb 12-11-2014 08:50 AM

I am very tempted to let this salesman rape me with the 11%apr if hes able to get my payments to $350/month.

The 40th edition 370z they have is beautiful.

And only 33k miles the car is basically new. They are asking $23.9k ill tell them I will do it for $22k out the door with $350/month or its a no go. I know they are desperate to sell the thing, its been sitting on their lot for a long time.

njobe89 12-11-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3053550)
I am very tempted to let this salesman rape me with the 11%apr if hes able to get my payments to $350/month.

The 40th edition 370z they have is beautiful.

And only 33k miles the car is basically new. They are asking $23.9k ill tell them I will do it for $22k out the door with $350/month or its a no go. I know they are desperate to sell the thing, its been sitting on their lot for a long time.

to get it 22k out the door they would have to price the car around 19k, which i highly doubt they will do.

if your interest rate is so high, do you not have anyone that can co-sign with you? parents, sister, brother, cousin, etc.

czirrfb 12-11-2014 09:27 AM

I sadly have nobody to co sign for me.

njobe89 12-11-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3053588)
I sadly have nobody to co sign for me.

start building your credit then... i wouldn't start building it on a car, where you're going to get killed with interest.

Driftomodachi 12-11-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3052578)
The RX7 along with the Supra and NSX are iconic sports cars from Japan. The Z never hit the same status, that would be the GTR from Nissan. And the S2000 after the NSX is arguably the best sports car Honda has ever made.

RX8 is bogus.

What are you talking about? Nissan has always been an innovator that's why the 300zxtt was THE first 90's supercar followed by the 3000gt vr4, fd then supra. Nissan did it again with the gtr but this time they challenged porsche and the exotics

rx8 is a spirograph with a king cab

czirrfb 12-11-2014 12:15 PM

RX8 sucks, we all know this. But the RX7 is a superior car to the 370z. Its legendary.

Chuck33079 12-11-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3053791)
RX8 sucks, we all know this. But the RX7 is a superior car to the 370z. Its legendary.

:rofl2:

Really? Boost goes in, apex seals come out? That's legendary? It was a legendary idea, but in reality it made British and Italian cars look reliable.

:rofl2:

czirrfb 12-11-2014 12:19 PM

Just put another motor in it. The car is still sexier, lighter, more capable platform than the Z.

Chuck33079 12-11-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by czirrfb (Post 3053794)
Just put another motor in it. The car is still sexier, lighter, more capable platform than the Z.

Ok, "legendary if you pull out the OEM time bomb of a motor and drop a pushrod V8 in it". :rofl2:

It's a great looking car, but it was outperformed by its peers when new. It was down on power substantially. It was great in the corners, but it was never as fast as the rest of the crew. And a 370Z is faster in every metric than a stock Supra / 300TT / RX7 etc. Cars have come a long way. A V6 Camry has more power than most of the early 90's performance cars.

czirrfb 12-11-2014 12:28 PM

Well yeah, but who wouldnt want this? I would rather have this than a 370z. You get the looks and the power. I just think the RX7 is a sexy *** car.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...5&d=1290118563


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