Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

shadoquad · 05-31-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoSHNIK

Yeah, I like drag the most, but the reason I didn't buy a mustang is because I still like to be able to take a turn at a high speed. Honestly, I doubt Miata can be driven on a regular mountain road as fast as 370z. I feel like the Z allowes you to experience the best of the two worlds (mustang world and miata world).

Depends on how straight the road is, but more important is the driver mod. Miatas can go at insane speeds in curves, but more importantly, with the top down, the sensation of speed is much greater. Same with the lightness of the car. It's funny that you called it weak. It only makes 175 hp or so, but with a light car, you don't need much power. Look at the Lotus Elise. 200hp, light frame, very thrilling car.

The new Mustang handles as well as the Z. You could have gotten the best of both worlds for less money had you simply bought the Mustang, and it would put up better drag times.

NeoSHNIK · 05-31-2012, 04:59 PM

Yeha, I guess new Miata's are better. The only Miata I drove was an older one (early 2000s or late 90s), and it was weak. My Pontiac Grand Am felt better when accelerating. Driving a new Miata would probably increase my opinion on that car, but meh

I find it hard to believe that new 5.0 handle as well as Z, but even if they did, I'd still get a Z. Mostly because I believe that Z is built better than the Mustang, the Mustangs are very common, and the Z in my opinion looks better than the Mustang inside and outside.
Now, I would probably choose a Boss or GT500 over Z

But hey, lets not get too derailed? I think we just have different opinions and beliefs, and although mine is different than yours, I still understand and respect yours.

theDreamer · 05-31-2012, 05:07 PM

Saw my first one today, it looked good for a moment and then it feel off quickly.
The car has great potential to look fantastic with aftermarket but from factory Toyota dialed it down a bit much, should have pushed it a bit like concept II.

Spikuh · 05-31-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoSHNIK

Yeha, I guess new Miata's are better. The only Miata I drove was an older one (early 2000s or late 90s), and it was weak. My Pontiac Grand Am felt better when accelerating. Driving a new Miata would probably increase my opinion on that car, but meh

I find it hard to believe that new 5.0 handle as well as Z, but even if they did, I'd still get a Z. Mostly because I believe that Z is built better than the Mustang, the Mustangs are very common, and the Z in my opinion looks better than the Mustang inside and outside.
Now, I would probably choose a Boss or GT500 over Z

But hey, lets not get too derailed? I think we just have different opinions and beliefs, and although mine is different than yours, I still understand and respect yours.

The Mustangs are built rather well these days. Ford has come a long way in quality in the past 10 years or so. We have had no real problems with my brother's '08 Mustang and the new ones are supposed to be built even better from my understanding. At this point, I honestly think you are splitting hairs on build quiality between the Z and Mustang. It also appears to do very well in the corners these days. I think the Z has an ever so slight edge, but my guess is that is due to weight more than anything. Just a guess though.

Isamu · 05-31-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Just saying, I bet you could have a lot more fun with a Miata than an Aventador on local roads. But on paper, the Aventador is the obviously faster machine. You just would have to route yourself around any speed bumps, couldn't drive it to its limits ever, and would have trouble leaving it parked anywhere without being a nervous wreck. It's all relative.

here is the thing... you pull up in an aventador.. panties drop... ladies panties...

you pull up in your slick miata... panties may drop... but they belong to doods.

Isamu · 05-31-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

You're all pretty much missing the point.

I would rather own the lambo for obvious reasons. It would be more fun on rare occasions when you can get it out.

But on a daily basis, I would have more fun with the Miata. You could drive it any time, be less nervous about damaging it, and could actually play with it closer to its limits without being a danger to other motorists.

And way too many people hate on that little car. They are amazing to drive. Haters gonna hate. More Miatas race on actual race tracks than any other sports car.

Miatas ARE a blast... and it's why I love my DD... a 92 s-10 blazer.. because I can do **** like off road if i need, and I am not worried about people hitting me an ****

shadoquad · 05-31-2012, 05:37 PM

Neo, I respect your opinion, too

Red__Zed · 05-31-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

here is the thing... you pull up in an aventador.. panties drop... ladies panties...

you pull up in your slick miata... panties may drop... but they belong to Me

Isamu · 05-31-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

nothing like a turbo miata to make me creamy

Spikuh · 05-31-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

nothing like a turbo miata to make me creamy

LS Miata > Turbo Miata

Isamu · 05-31-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

LS Miata > Turbo Miata

:ls2blazer:

DJ-of-E · 05-31-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoSHNIK

Honestly, I doubt Miata can be driven on a regular mountain road as fast as 370z. I feel like the Z allowes you to experience the best of the two worlds (mustang world and miata world).

Wait? what? huh?

NeoSHNIK · 05-31-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Wait? what? huh?

Where? when? why?

DJ-of-E · 05-31-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoSHNIK

Where? when? why?

Which? How? Really?

Waiz · 05-31-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

You're all pretty much missing the point.

I would rather own the lambo for obvious reasons. It would be more fun on rare occasions when you can get it out.

But on a daily basis, I would have more fun with the Miata. You could drive it any time, be less nervous about damaging it, and could actually play with it closer to its limits without being a danger to other motorists.

And way too many people hate on that little car. They are amazing to drive. Haters gonna hate. More Miatas race on actual race tracks than any other sports car.

I've tried to make this exact point too many times on this forum and people just don't get it.

Same thing for the hate for the FRS/BRZ, I just don't get it myself but then again I am a very open-minded person when it comes to cars in general.

It's funny how many of you here hate on this car as though it's a competitor to the Z or that it lessens the Z in some way. It will be an affordable RWD sportscar with plenty of aftermarket options, some of you just need to accept that.

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05-31-2012, 04:59 PM	#1097 (permalink)
NeoSHNIK Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 237 Drives: 370z 40th 6MT Rep Power: 14	Yeha, I guess new Miata's are better. The only Miata I drove was an older one (early 2000s or late 90s), and it was weak. My Pontiac Grand Am felt better when accelerating. Driving a new Miata would probably increase my opinion on that car, but meh I find it hard to believe that new 5.0 handle as well as Z, but even if they did, I'd still get a Z. Mostly because I believe that Z is built better than the Mustang, the Mustangs are very common, and the Z in my opinion looks better than the Mustang inside and outside. Now, I would probably choose a Boss or GT500 over Z But hey, lets not get too derailed? I think we just have different opinions and beliefs, and although mine is different than yours, I still understand and respect yours.

05-31-2012, 05:37 PM	#1102 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Neo, I respect your opinion, too