Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Isamu · 04-02-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

Its going to end up being a 20k car by end of the year used. watch..

that **** will piss me off... BUT.. means more people will have money to buy our stuff!

ZMan8 · 04-02-2012, 11:06 AM

When are these 2 cars suppose to official be available?

Isamu · 04-02-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

When are these 2 cars suppose to official be available?

end of this month? I don't know.. just speculating

cossie1600 · 04-02-2012, 12:01 PM

They are extremely limited in year one, my friends Subaru dealership is getting two for now, three at the most. Its a smaller dealershop though

Zaggeron · 04-02-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

They are extremely limited in year one, my friends Subaru dealership is getting two for now, three at the most. Its a smaller dealershop though

My Subie dealer is supposedly getting only 8 all year.

Zaggeron · 04-02-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

end of this month? I don't know.. just speculating

Both are "officially" becoming available at the end of April. i can't speak for the FRS, but the first BRZs are supposed to be at the dealers starting in May.

ZMan8 · 04-02-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

My Subie dealer is supposedly getting only 8 all year.

limited production?

shadoquad · 04-02-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

They are extremely limited in year one, my friends Subaru dealership is getting two for now, three at the most. Its a smaller dealershop though

That makes sense, from what I've seen with Subaru's performance lines historically. The first WRX came with that limited canary yellow color

If the model does well, they'll step up production in successive years.

NeoSHNIK · 04-02-2012, 08:38 PM

Sounds like this car is a "Z wanna be"...

mjd77 · 04-02-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

Its going to end up being a 20k car by end of the year used. watch..

I agree. I do think once the initial demand is met, this car will be a total flop. If you look at what car shoppers gravitate towards in this country, the V-6 Mustang or Camaro will be way higher on the list than an underpowered "but handles great" Subaru sports car.

Zaggeron · 04-02-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mjd77

I agree. I do think once the initial demand is met, this car will be a total flop. If you look at what car shoppers gravitate towards in this country, the V-6 Mustang or Camaro will be way higher on the list than an underpowered "but handles great" Subaru sports car.

Yup. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, they should take a clue from the utter and total failure of the Miata/MX-5 -- Americans do not want a lightweight, good-handling, fun to drive car.

mjd77 · 04-02-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Yup. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, they should take a clue from the utter and total failure of the Miata/MX-5 -- Americans do not want a lightweight, good-handling, fun to drive car.

Most of them don't. The MX-5 does very well as the niche car that it is but if there was that big of a market for that kind of car, I would have expected the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky to do a little better.

Isamu · 04-02-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Yup. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, they should take a clue from the utter and total failure of the Miata/MX-5 -- Americans do not want a lightweight, good-handling, fun to drive car that has a roof!.

fixed

Zaggeron · 04-02-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mjd77

Most of them don't. The MX-5 does very well as the niche car that it is but if there was that big of a market for that kind of car, I would have expected the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky to do a little better.

The Sky and Solstice were not particularly good handling cars with more weight and less power than the BRZ or FRS. If the BRZ/FRS does as well as the MX-5 does in its niche, I think all involved will consider it a success. It is, after all, a niche car itself not Toyota's replacement for the Corolla

shadoquad · 04-02-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mjd77

Most of them don't. The MX-5 does very well as the niche car that it is but if there was that big of a market for that kind of car, I would have expected the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky to do a little better.

This is getting a bit off-topic, but the Solstice/Sky failed because it was a parts bin car. It wasn't a design directive. Bob Lutz just threw GM parts into a roadster. It was less practical than the Miata. With the top down, you had no storage. And it wasn't a significantly better car.

The Miata's sales have slowed over the years, but it has had a long run of success.

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