Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Jamaica · 03-21-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

looks like MSRP is FR-S 24,200 manaul and 25,300 for the automatic

for which ones the subie or FRS?

MC · 03-21-2012, 06:41 PM

i fixed my post.. was typing from my phone...is for the scion

the BRZ is supposed to be like 28K as it has some interior upgrades like leather and NAV

Jamaica · 03-21-2012, 06:46 PM

seems like the auto is always more.

MC · 03-21-2012, 06:47 PM

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To: All Scion Dealers March 20, 2012

Subject: 2013MY Scion FR-S Price Announcement

Scion is pleased to announce the starting price of $24,200 for the highly awaited 2013MY Scion.

FR-S which will arrive at Scion dealerships in June. Even with DPH, the starting price is still under $25,000!

2013MY Scion FR-S Highlights:
This high performance sports car is the fifth model to join the Scion family. Inspired by the
Toyota AE86, FR-S is designed around the core goal of achieving, “Pure Balance.” This
balance begins with the use of the world’s only front-engine, rear-wheel drive configuration
using a flat boxer engine.
Some of the great standard features on FR-S include:
• 2.0 liter, 200 horsepower, naturally aspirated four-cylinder boxer engine
• Toyota’s cutting edge D-4S injection system with direct and port
injection
• 6-speed manual transmission that offers quick precise shifts with a short
throw
• 6-speed automatic transmission with rev-match and steering-wheel
mounted paddle shifters
• Torque Sensing Limited Slip Differential
• 17-inch alloy wheels and ventilated disc brakes
FR-S’s interior ****pit instantly exudes a “sports car” feel. The front sports seats are shaped to
accommodate manual shifting and support longitudinal and lateral G-force. The leather
wrapped 3-spoke sports steering wheel, utilizes the smallest diameter in the Scion lineup.
The idea of “Pure Balance” is further realized by FR-S’s lightweight design and compact size.
This allows the car to be quick and nimble into and out of corners. This combination is further
proof that Scion is truly “Bringing the Sport Back to the Car.”
The FR-S will be available in seven colors including Raven, Asphalt, Hot Lava, Argento,
Ultramarine, Firestorm and Whiteout.

Pricing Summary Documents:
MSRP for the FR-S six-speed manual and six-speed sequential automatic transmissions are $24,200 and $25,300 respectively.

Model Transmission Description 2013 Base
MSRP
6253 6MT FA20 $24,200
6252 6AT FA20 $25,300

All prices listed above exclude the Delivery, Processing, and Handling (DPH) fee
Pricing will be announced to the public on Thursday, March 22, 2012. Please keep this
information confidential until Thursday, March 22, 2012. Pricing details will be available in
the Scion FR-S Price Guides posted in the “Secure Area” for Dealer Principals on Dealer Daily.
Please contact your Regional Office or local administrator if you have any questions.

Isamu · 03-21-2012, 06:49 PM

I was just about to post that MC!

azn370z · 03-23-2012, 01:44 PM

How does 0-60 in 7 sec and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sound?

2013 Subaru BRZ Full Test

b1adesofcha0s · 03-23-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

How does 0-60 in 7 sec and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sound?

2013 Subaru BRZ Full Test

MT did slightly better with 0-60 time of 6.4 s and 1/4 mile time of 14.9 s.

2013 Subaru BRZ Limited First Test - Motor Trend

280z/300zx · 03-23-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

How does 0-60 in 7 sec and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sound?
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How does it sound? It sounds slow......My 77 280z goes fater than that

96bigbody · 03-23-2012, 02:03 PM

2013 Subaru BRZ Full Test

Cliffs: 0-60 in 7.3, 1/4 mi. in 15.7@90.5 mph

b1adesofcha0s · 03-23-2012, 02:09 PM

Well you wouldn't expect a 200 HP car to be that fast in the 1/4 mile. This car wasn't exactly made for straight line speed.

kenchan · 03-23-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody

2013 Subaru BRZ Full Test

Cliffs: 0-60 in 7.3, 1/4 mi. in 15.7@90.5 mph

woah, welcome to 1997 honda prelude.

but $24.2K for MT sounds great.

MC · 03-23-2012, 02:45 PM

if i got one it would be for around town driving and autocross...

but yeah the acceleration times are bad even though i expected them to be slow..but thats real damn slow.... would have to get a bumper sticker to say "dont race me...my other car is a GTR "

the limited trim car has like leather and alcantara seats push button start and a spoiler for supposedly 28K.... for almost 30K even though i know thats not the point that just doesnt make sense its that slow to be so light..... the turbo version should be like 5.5 0-60 and maybe like a 14.1 1/4 mile

theDreamer · 03-23-2012, 02:47 PM

Ok, sorry but that is pathetic, especially for 2012.
Just looked up old 240sx times and the 240sx was faster by a a little bit..I mean come on, this is suppose to be something amazing I though.

vo2max99 · 03-23-2012, 02:53 PM

The car appears to be awesome but those acceleration #'s have me wondering if its making something like 185-190hp not quite 200hp.

The Civic SI weighs over 100lbs (~2900lbs vs. ~27XXlbs.) more with the same ~200hp yet blows the BR-Z's doors off... 0-60: 6.3sec vs. 7.3 and 1/4mile: 14.8@96 vs. 15.3@92.

Hell even the MX-5 Maita runs 0-60: 6.5-6.7 sec and 14.9@93 for the 1/4mile.. But then again its power to weight ratio is similar to the Civic si / BR-Z.

I'm not saying the BR-Z isn't worth it or anything I'm just wondering about the 200hp figure which seems over-rated considering the #'s....

Otherwise the BR-Z appears to be one of the best driver's cars out there along side the likes of the S2K, MX-5, RX-8, Boxster/ Cayman.

So it seems if driving is what you desire it wouldn't make much sense to spend more than ~26K on one of these BR-Z's. I'm torn....

The BR-Z is obviously not for those lacking in the genitalia debt.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-23-2012, 03:02 PM

MT tested it to be slightly faster than the Miata.

03-21-2012, 06:41 PM	#632 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	i fixed my post.. was typing from my phone...is for the scion the BRZ is supposed to be like 28K as it has some interior upgrades like leather and NAV __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO

03-23-2012, 01:44 PM	#636 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 490	How does 0-60 in 7 sec and 1/4 mile in 15.3 sound? 2013 Subaru BRZ Full Test __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

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96bigbody Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 138 Drives: 09 nissan 370z pw/a7 Rep Power: 16	2013 Subaru BRZ Full Test Cliffs: 0-60 in 7.3, 1/4 mi. in 15.7@90.5 mph __________________ 09 370z Pw 7at touring sport nav... 02 Som trans am ws7.. 408 & T76 96 black impala ss.. 396 & juice

03-23-2012, 02:09 PM	#640 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Well you wouldn't expect a 200 HP car to be that fast in the 1/4 mile. This car wasn't exactly made for straight line speed. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

03-23-2012, 02:45 PM	#642 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 24	if i got one it would be for around town driving and autocross... but yeah the acceleration times are bad even though i expected them to be slow..but thats real damn slow.... would have to get a bumper sticker to say "dont race me...my other car is a GTR " the limited trim car has like leather and alcantara seats push button start and a spoiler for supposedly 28K.... for almost 30K even though i know thats not the point that just doesnt make sense its that slow to be so light..... the turbo version should be like 5.5 0-60 and maybe like a 14.1 1/4 mile __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO Last edited by MC; 03-23-2012 at 02:50 PM.

03-21-2012, 06:46 PM	#633 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	seems like the auto is always more.

03-23-2012, 02:47 PM	#643 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Ok, sorry but that is pathetic, especially for 2012. Just looked up old 240sx times and the 240sx was faster by a a little bit..I mean come on, this is suppose to be something amazing I though. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

03-23-2012, 02:53 PM	#644 (permalink)
vo2max99 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 120 Drives: 08MS3-BM-6MT Rep Power: 13	The car appears to be awesome but those acceleration #'s have me wondering if its making something like 185-190hp not quite 200hp. The Civic SI weighs over 100lbs (~2900lbs vs. ~27XXlbs.) more with the same ~200hp yet blows the BR-Z's doors off... 0-60: 6.3sec vs. 7.3 and 1/4mile: 14.8@96 vs. 15.3@92. Hell even the MX-5 Maita runs 0-60: 6.5-6.7 sec and 14.9@93 for the 1/4mile.. But then again its power to weight ratio is similar to the Civic si / BR-Z. I'm not saying the BR-Z isn't worth it or anything I'm just wondering about the 200hp figure which seems over-rated considering the #'s.... Otherwise the BR-Z appears to be one of the best driver's cars out there along side the likes of the S2K, MX-5, RX-8, Boxster/ Cayman. So it seems if driving is what you desire it wouldn't make much sense to spend more than ~26K on one of these BR-Z's. I'm torn.... The BR-Z is obviously not for those lacking in the genitalia debt. Last edited by vo2max99; 03-23-2012 at 03:12 PM.

03-23-2012, 03:02 PM	#645 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	MT tested it to be slightly faster than the Miata. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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