Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Isamu · 11-03-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

2600lbs is a great weight for a car.

I remember driving a gutted turbo miata once... it was stoopid fun!

DJ-of-E · 11-03-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

Or think back to the SR20DET in the Silvia line. ~200hp and ~200torque and ~250hp by the time you got to the s15 model.

Then there is the new MR16DDT engine with 188hp and 177torque...

Granted, these are FI engines and the FT engine is NA so not entirely apples to applese, but I expected better numbers.

Well, the original SR20DE engines are barely 165HP w/ 120lbs of torque.

Still..you think after 20 years later, you would think these newer engines are supposed to be more power efficient, especially when the SR20DE engine had like 30MPG on the freaken god dang Sentra!

DJ-of-E · 11-03-2011, 03:03 PM

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New FR-S BRZ Technology Info! Engine specs, CoG, Drag Coefficient, Dimensions, etc.

Key Info:

460mm from ground to the center of the crank/gravity (low CG)
53:47 F/R weight split
0.27 Cd (coefficient of drag)
D-4S DI engine tech (direct injection pairs with secondary EFI)
1,998cc Displacement
200 HP
151.2 ft-lbs torque
7400rpm redline
12.5:1 Compression ratio
86mm x 86mm bore/stroke
Mcpherson front suspension / Double wishbone rear
Rear seats fold (as one unit)
Cup holders can slide / be removed
Can carry 4 tires in rear

You gotta give props, I can't even fit 2 wheels in the Z. Pretty shitty car to go take to the track without a truck/trailer.

DJ-of-E · 11-03-2011, 03:06 PM

Better shot of the interior:

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Rui Z · 11-03-2011, 03:23 PM

Anyone know what the 370Z's center of gravity height is?

kenchan · 11-03-2011, 07:01 PM

Lol... my kids will fit just fine.

m4a1mustang · 11-03-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z

Anyone know what the 370Z's center of gravity height is?

The Z's CG height is 20in or 508mm.

takjak2 · 11-03-2011, 09:04 PM

53:47 strikes again!

I really appreciate the emphasis with "Tire transport for track days."

FL 4Motion · 11-03-2011, 09:30 PM

I kina dig this car, but I don't get the "I'll get one as a DD and keep my Z" thing. They are similar enough that if you need a DD as well as a Z, just get a STi, suv, comfy sedan etc vs. some small, impractica for hauling anything, second car, it's almost like saying I have Z, so I'll get another Z as my DD to save my original Z from wear and tear.

Still would love to see and STi'd version of this from Subaru, I'l be really tempted were that to happen...

XwChriswX · 11-03-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I kina dig this car, but I don't get the "I'll get one as a DD and keep my Z" thing. They are similar enough that if you need a DD as well as a Z, just get a STi, suv, comfy sedan etc vs. some small, impractica for hauling anything, second car, it's almost like saying I have Z, so I'll get another Z as my DD to save my original Z from wear and tear.

Still would love to see and STi'd version of this from Subaru, I'l be really tempted were that to happen...

Actually, that's a great idea! 1 Z for the track, 1 for DD. BRILLIANT!

Skeeterbop · 11-03-2011, 09:47 PM

The only reason I said I would use it for a dd and keep the Z is because I honestly have no need for the rear seats. I would just fold them over and use it as a 2 seater with extra storage space and make the Z my weekend fun car.

Zaggeron · 11-03-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I kina dig this car, but I don't get the "I'll get one as a DD and keep my Z" thing. They are similar enough that if you need a DD as well as a Z, just get a STi, suv, comfy sedan etc vs. some small, impractica for hauling anything, second car, it's almost like saying I have Z, so I'll get another Z as my DD to save my original Z from wear and tear.

Still would love to see and STi'd version of this from Subaru, I'l be really tempted were that to happen...

I'm one of those thinking about this as a DD. The thing is it is quite different from my Z so I don't see the argument for just getting another Z -- though I have thought about getting the coupe for DD and leaving the 'vert for those perfect 'vert days

. But sometimes tossing around a light, moderately powered, car is a blast.

I need a new DD, but I don't like comfy sedans, STis, etc. I've got no need to haul anything around so this sounds like a good deal all around.

Red__Zed · 11-03-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2

53:47 strikes again!

I really appreciate the emphasis with "Tire transport for track days."

That's honestly one of the coolest features I've seen in a car.

Even if they don't bring a big power version, that motor is supposed to be bulletproof. I bet we see some big numbers out of it when guys slap on FI.

Jordo! · 11-03-2011, 10:24 PM

I REALLY wanted this car (and maybe still do...), but for me the quandry is the substantial difference in power.

Now, if TRD offers some sort of blower for the car then I'd be interested again. Otherwise, I'd get this as a second car if in the budget, but not a replacement.

I deeply miss having a lightweight, tossable car, but to go back to a vehicle that needs A LOT of aftermarket support to get out of it's own way... ugh... just can't go through that again.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

That's honestly one of the coolest features I've seen in a car.

Even if they don't bring a big power version, that motor is supposed to be bulletproof. I bet we see some big numbers out of it when guys slap on FI.

The two big X factors are:

1. No one in the aftermarket seems to have a very good grasp on tuning a DI motor (yes, it will also have port injection, but not clear whether or not it will be easy to just modify that as a work around).

and

2. newer Toyota ECU's are notoriously tuner unfriendly... that might not matter if it's a Subie ECU (Cobb?), but all unknown at this point.

And of course, not sure I want to light my warranty on fire (and possibly blow the motor) in the struggle to make the car fast in the straights as well as the corners...

nuTinmuch · 11-03-2011, 10:53 PM

A 0 - 60 time of 6 seconds isn't exactly slow. I mean, it isn't fast, but it's entertaining.

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Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 16	The only reason I said I would use it for a dd and keep the Z is because I honestly have no need for the rear seats. I would just fold them over and use it as a 2 seater with extra storage space and make the Z my weekend fun car. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

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nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 17	A 0 - 60 time of 6 seconds isn't exactly slow. I mean, it isn't fast, but it's entertaining. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Lol... my kids will fit just fine.

11-03-2011, 09:30 PM	#114 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701615	I kina dig this car, but I don't get the "I'll get one as a DD and keep my Z" thing. They are similar enough that if you need a DD as well as a Z, just get a STi, suv, comfy sedan etc vs. some small, impractica for hauling anything, second car, it's almost like saying I have Z, so I'll get another Z as my DD to save my original Z from wear and tear. Still would love to see and STi'd version of this from Subaru, I'l be really tempted were that to happen...

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