that **** will piss me off... BUT.. means more people will have money to buy our stuff!:tup:

When are these 2 cars suppose to official be available?

end of this month? I don't know.. just speculating

They are extremely limited in year one, my friends Subaru dealership is getting two for now, three at the most. Its a smaller dealershop though

My Subie dealer is supposedly getting only 8 all year.

Both are "officially" becoming available at the end of April. i can't speak for the FRS, but the first BRZs are supposed to be at the dealers starting in May.

:confused: limited production?

That makes sense, from what I've seen with Subaru's performance lines historically. The first WRX came with that limited canary yellow color :yum:

If the model does well, they'll step up production in successive years.

Sounds like this car is a "Z wanna be"...

I agree. I do think once the initial demand is met, this car will be a total flop. If you look at what car shoppers gravitate towards in this country, the V-6 Mustang or Camaro will be way higher on the list than an underpowered "but handles great" Subaru sports car.

Yup. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, they should take a clue from the utter and total failure of the Miata/MX-5 -- Americans do not want a lightweight, good-handling, fun to drive car. :stirthepot:

Most of them don't. The MX-5 does very well as the niche car that it is but if there was that big of a market for that kind of car, I would have expected the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky to do a little better.

fixed :stirthepot:

The Sky and Solstice were not particularly good handling cars with more weight and less power than the BRZ or FRS. If the BRZ/FRS does as well as the MX-5 does in its niche, I think all involved will consider it a success. It is, after all, a niche car itself not Toyota's replacement for the Corolla

This is getting a bit off-topic, but the Solstice/Sky failed because it was a parts bin car. It wasn't a design directive. Bob Lutz just threw GM parts into a roadster. It was less practical than the Miata. With the top down, you had no storage. And it wasn't a significantly better car.

The Miata's sales have slowed over the years, but it has had a long run of success.