New Mustang blows past 2015 Nismo

JARblue · 04-06-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brancky3

How hot was it outside when that happened? I drove to Atlanta last year (150 miles) in 95+ degree heat last year and had nowhere close to 250F temps. Hell, I don't think it even went above 220F.

August in Texas. Definitely over 100F. Speed is a big factor as well. We were on a toll road with 85 mph speed limit. At 70 mph, I've never had an issue with temps - typically right around 225F or so. But I've found that extra 15-20 mph increases oil temps significantly during the Texas summer weather.

Davey · 04-06-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brancky3

How hot was it outside when that happened? I drove to Atlanta last year (150 miles) in 95+ degree heat last year and had nowhere close to 250F temps. Hell, I don't think it even went above 220F.

Davey · 04-06-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I'm not talking about it running hot on the track. I'm talking about cruise control at 85ish mph on the highway and seeing 250F+ temps on the oil temp gauge. The 2012 I saw this happen in was 100% stock and wasn't running noticeably cooler than my 2011 with no stock cooler. Both were pegged between 250-255F on the gauge. The stock cooler is a worthless piece of garbage in my experience

Well excuuuuuuuuuse me, Mr. 85 mph on the highway in Texas heat.

I've owned with and without, and the oil cooler made a noticeable difference. Let's just say under the same conditions where my 2011 would run 240 - 250 degrees I haven't seen the oil-cooler-equipped cars go above 220.

JARblue · 04-06-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Well excuuuuuuuuuse me, Mr. 85 mph on the highway in Texas heat.

I've owned with and without, and the oil cooler made a noticeable difference. Let's just say under the same conditions where my 2011 would run 240 - 250 degrees I haven't seen the oil-cooler-equipped cars go above 220.

You have a lot more data that I do then

As long as I'm not on the gas, I have no problems with temps. Easier said than done though

Tadpole · 04-07-2015, 06:55 AM

I have seen my oil temps climb to 220 is at the drag strip with about 4 passes. Mostly in the evening when temps start to drop and humidity rises. I shut my z down for about 30 minutes before I attempt to run any more passes. Performance drops significantly after 220 tho

Davey · 04-07-2015, 10:41 AM

What reason could you have for staying above 4500 RPM for an extended amount of time on the street?

If you're in 3rd doing between 60 - 85 with the gas to the floor for several minutes, sorry, but you're driving on the street like you'd be driving on the track. Not shaking my finger at you, but I do think you're asking a lot of a stock car's cooling to put up with that in Texas summer heat.

JARblue · 04-07-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

What reason could you have for staying above 4500 RPM for an extended amount of time on the street?

In traffic? Zero.

Spirited driving on empty curvy roads? Plenty. That's the powerband

Davey · 04-07-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

In traffic? Zero.

Spirited driving on empty curvy roads? Plenty. That's the powerband

Yeah I do plenty of 3rd gear pulls myself. That's how I got my temp above 220.

I guess your expectations are higher than mine as far as the stock car, I wouldn't expect my brakes to stand up to repeated 130 - 0 stops or the stock cooling to support running wide open and near redline for extended periods.

I guess what I'm saying is, don't roll your eyes at me when I talk about only needing an oil cooler "on the track" when you're treating your lovely Texas back-roads like they are one.

JARblue · 04-07-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Yeah I do plenty of 3rd gear pulls myself. That's how I got my temp above 220.

I guess your expectations are higher than mine as far as the stock car, I wouldn't expect my brakes to stand up to repeated 130 - 0 stops or the stock cooling to support running wide open and near redline for extended periods.

I guess what I'm saying is, don't roll your eyes at me when I talk about only needing an oil cooler "on the track" when you're treating your lovely Texas back-roads like they are one.

I think I have very reasonable expectations. I don't expect my car to last more than a few miles when I drive it that hard. I wasn't surprised that I hit 260F yesterday; it was completely expected, and I backed off when needed. I thought I was pretty clear, that I didn't think an extra cooler was necessary for DD or cruising

I've had my Z on the track once. It did better than I expected, frankly. But I knew it couldn't handle it, so I didn't push it. I pulled off early to let her cool down rather than pushing it to limp mode - I made it through 2x 3-lap sessions. Aggressive street driving for me is typically a few minutes or even just a few pulls on certain routes. Nothing sustained. Once it is no longer my DD, I will get an oil cooler and get it on the track for some real

Gregor12 · 04-07-2015, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

In traffic? Zero.

Spirited driving on empty curvy roads? Plenty. That's the powerband

EXACTLY. Spirited driving equals a very high oil temp, which makes the car feel very sluggish. What do you expect with that little *** hole in the bumper. Open that beast up!!!! SAWZALL FIXES ALL

Nut_N_Much · 04-07-2015, 07:24 PM

Wow, came way to late to the party. You guy's are a trip..

Tadpole · 04-07-2015, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregor12

EXACTLY. Spirited driving equals a very high oil temp, which makes the car feel very sluggish. What do you expect with that little *** hole in the bumper. Open that beast up!!!! SAWZALL FIXES ALL

Sawzall?? Pics please.

JARblue · 04-07-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

If you're in 3rd doing between 60 - 85 with the gas to the floor for several minutes, sorry, but you're driving on the street like you'd be driving on the track. Not shaking my finger at you, but I do think you're asking a lot of a stock car's cooling to put up with that in Texas summer heat.

lol at 85 in 3rd at 6K RPMs... I don't know about yours, but my 3rd gear redlines at 90 mph.

Speed limit is 55 mph. So I'm cruising around 60-65 through the curves that everyone else slows down on (when there is actually traffic on the road). Also, my gas pedal is not anywhere near close to the floor. I am just at higher RPMs in a lower gear so I can exit the turns quicker because power band. I don't floor it between the curves.

Davey · 04-07-2015, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

lol at 85 in 3rd at 6K RPMs... I don't know about yours, but my 3rd gear redlines at 90 mph.

I said 85 in 3rd because it's approximately redline in 3rd.

Gregor12 · 04-07-2015, 07:37 PM

I googled SAWZALL bumper and the first thing that came up was this Lolol enjoy!

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