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I would not call 80k cheap. Let's call it a good value for the money.

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Old 11-03-2014, 08:32 PM   #106 (permalink)
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I would not call 80k cheap. Let's call it a good value for the money.
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I know this thread is probably old and didn't want revive it again, but I just have to get this off my chest after reading everyones replies.

Now who really cares if your car is faster than someone else's? This I where I would bring up other cars who are notorious for heavy engine mods and cheap at the price of the actual car. This is a 370z forum but I have to bring up the Toyota supra, just because it can beat almost any other car if modded to 1000hp. When you reach that hp amount, go up to others and tell them " I beat Ferraris and Lamborghini's". I don't think they would care, and I don't think the guy in the 6 figure car would care either. Even if you have a faster car than somone in a Ferarri or Lamborghini, I would still choose the Lamborghini.

To me it all really matters on balance of quality and performance, you can't really buy a mustang just because it goes fast in a straight line, that would get boring really fast. I want to enjoy the interior of the car because that's were I will be spending most of the time driving in while seated on a hopfully comfortable chair. I don't care about speed unless I'm being paid over a million a year and doing GT races on the track. In my opinion the 370z is more classy than a raw mustang which is a headache to drive daily. That's why I drive a 370z nismo, and hope to go to a GTR nismo or not in the future.
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I know this thread is probably old and didn't want revive it again, but I just have to get this off my chest after reading everyones replies.

Now who really cares if your car is faster than someone else's? This I where I would bring up other cars who are notorious for heavy engine mods and cheap at the price of the actual car. This is a 370z forum but I have to bring up the Toyota supra, just because it can beat almost any other car if modded to 1000hp. When you reach that hp amount, go up to others and tell them " I beat Ferraris and Lamborghini's". I don't think they would care, and I don't think the guy in the 6 figure car would care either. Even if you have a faster car than somone in a Ferarri or Lamborghini, I would still choose the Lamborghini.

To me it all really matters on balance of quality and performance, you can't really buy a mustang just because it goes fast in a straight line, that would get boring really fast. I want to enjoy the interior of the car because that's were I will be spending most of the time driving in while seated on a hopfully comfortable chair. I don't care about speed unless I'm being paid over a million a year and doing GT races on the track. In my opinion the 370z is more classy than a raw mustang which is a headache to drive daily. That's why I drive a 370z nismo, and hope to go to a GTR nismo or not in the future.

You’ve obviously never driven a 2011-present mustang. it drives nice and handles great. that is why it beat the nismo around the track at vir (car and driver test). as for the interior i kinda agree. but the mustangs tech package with leather seats is a much more comfortable drive than the 370z. Ive owned both and the mustang is a better car overall. the 370z just looks better and feels a little bit tighter in the steering wheel. its said to say but the mustang beat the Z.

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You’ve obviously never driven a 2011-present mustang. it drives nice and handles great. that is why it beat the nismo around the track at vir (car and driver test). as for the interior i kinda agree. but the mustangs tech package with leather seats is a much more comfortable drive than the 370z. Ive owned both and the mustang is a better car overall. the 370z just looks better and feels a little bit tighter in the steering wheel. its said to say but the mustang beat the Z.
What you are saying is more than likely true but what you are not taking in to consideration that the 370 came out in 09 and it took Ford over two years to catch up and surpass the Z. After six years the current Z's platform is still very competitive to most all current pony Cars.
We shall see if the next gen z will set the bar again.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:37 PM   #112 (permalink)
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You’ve obviously never driven a 2011-present mustang. it drives nice and handles great. that is why it beat the nismo around the track at vir (car and driver test). as for the interior i kinda agree. but the mustangs tech package with leather seats is a much more comfortable drive than the 370z. Ive owned both and the mustang is a better car overall. the 370z just looks better and feels a little bit tighter in the steering wheel. its said to say but the mustang beat the Z.
Well, that may be your opinion but I disagree. I have driven the S197 pretty extensively and I find the Mustang to be big and heavy and not fun to drive at all once you get past the fun of mashing the throttle 2 or 3 times in the honeymoon period. It doesn't feel sporty in the slightest. Oh, except the shifter. It's nice and crisp with short throws, that was definitely pretty enjoyable.

I didn't like the retro-inspired interior and didn't find the interior it to be of very good quality. One car was a base GT and the other was the top-tier car with leather Recaros and the upgraded stereo, etc. The higher-end model was passable but not really impressive. It more gave me an impression of half-assed nostalgia that interfered with functionality rather than a good design, or a nice place to spend a lot of time driving. Apparently the S550 is a step in the right direction in that sense.

Anyway, point being, I really could not care less if the Mustang is faster around a track. It didn't strike me as a very well-put-together car although I certainly can't argue with the results, but I am not very interested in owning one.
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Well, that may be your opinion but I disagree. I have driven the S197 pretty extensively and I find the Mustang to be big and heavy and not fun to drive at all once you get past the fun of mashing the throttle 2 or 3 times in the honeymoon period. It doesn't feel sporty in the slightest. Oh, except the shifter. It's nice and crisp with short throws, that was definitely pretty enjoyable.

I didn't like the retro-inspired interior and didn't find the interior it to be of very good quality. One car was a base GT and the other was the top-tier car with leather Recaros and the upgraded stereo, etc. The higher-end model was passable but not really impressive. It more gave me an impression of half-assed nostalgia that interfered with functionality rather than a good design, or a nice place to spend a lot of time driving. Apparently the S550 is a step in the right direction in that sense.

Anyway, point being, I really could not care less if the Mustang is faster around a track. It didn't strike me as a very well-put-together car although I certainly can't argue with the results, but I am not very interested in owning one.
Oh very well said. I agree 100%. Despite sounding like the '86 crowd, etc. however, you did state, and IMO, the best response about sounding like the Twins crowd, "the Z isn't DEALBREAKER slow." Perfection.
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I thought the 370z 0-60 time was 4.8 seconds? Still pretty competitive
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What you are saying is more than likely true but what you are not taking in to consideration that the 370 came out in 09 and it took Ford over two years to catch up and surpass the Z. After six years the current Z's platform is still very competitive to most all current pony Cars.
We shall see if the next gen z will set the bar again.
The s197 chasis has been out since 05... And even with the 4.6 it was still competitive with the 370Z lol


Bottom line is that he said its a balance between quality and performance. I'd say they're equal in quality but the mustang beats the 370z in performance. Which one would I pick? The 370. But that doesn't mean it's a better car. Performance is defined by how well the car does when it's pushed to its limits and how well it takes the abuse in my opinion. The Z should've came with a factory oil cooler for sure. iys all personal preference. But the mustang out performs the Z. Turns and straight away. Still love the Z don't get me wrong. Waiting to see the next model.
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Bottom line is that you can't say that people buy the car only to go fast in a straight line. that's just stupid. It's like me saying people only buy the Z because it handles good
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I've never been a fan of american cars, I gotta admit the new GT with the performance package is tempting with the power numbers, IMO a pretty good looking car all considering, not as sexy as the Z. I sold my 09 Z a few years ago and currently have a 15 Forester XT, been anxiously waiting for news on the new Z and was disappointed with Subaru's new wrx. The XT is fun to drive with winter needs with AWD and more room, but I miss my Z and waiting to see if I can be lured back...
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The s197 chasis has been out since 05... And even with the 4.6 it was still competitive with the 370Z lol


Bottom line is that he said its a balance between quality and performance. I'd say they're equal in quality but the mustang beats the 370z in performance. Which one would I pick? The 370. But that doesn't mean it's a better car. Performance is defined by how well the car does when it's pushed to its limits and how well it takes the abuse in my opinion. The Z should've came with a factory oil cooler for sure. iys all personal preference. But the mustang out performs the Z. Turns and straight away. Still love the Z don't get me wrong. Waiting to see the next model.
With the 4.6 the Z owned mustang. Sorry chief, I disagree.
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Comparing a V6 To a V8 and thn stating that the v8 is better. Really ?
Yes the mustang is faster. ( compare the v6 mustang to a Z and thn laugh at ford. this would be a fairer comparison) However the Z still stands its ground even against a V8. I believe thats a pretty good car.

If there is one thing i hate about the mustang, is that they keep upgrading every year. I would never buy a mustang for that one reason. They are just simply tryhards.
Most of us here know that the 370z is slower thn the v8 mustang, We still went ahead and bought the Z. IDK about america but here they are pretty much the same cost and gas is negligible so i had no reason not to buy the mustang. Infact, I had better options thn these.
But i love the Z, And i am sure many here feel the same, It doesnt matter to anyone here because if they want faster, They will go Forced induction.

Ask my sister, And she will tell you that the mini cooper is better thn the GTR. You will not be able to prove anything otherwise.
It depends from one person to another, We chose our cars with our gut.
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Performance is defined by how well the car does when it's pushed to its limits and how well it takes the abuse in my opinion. The Z should've came with a factory oil cooler for sure.
The Z has had an oil cooler since 2012 and yes it should have had one from the beginning, but I had one with and without and without, and the car was more than capable of getting you arrested on the street in 100 degree weather without the oil cooler.

The Mustang had its shortcomings when pushed to the limit as well. There are companies whose sole purpose for existing is to correct them. In my opinion, the Mustang's shortcomings (stock) are far worse than the Z's. But that's just my opinion.
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