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Davey 04-07-2015 10:41 AM

What reason could you have for staying above 4500 RPM for an extended amount of time on the street?

If you're in 3rd doing between 60 - 85 with the gas to the floor for several minutes, sorry, but you're driving on the street like you'd be driving on the track. Not shaking my finger at you, but I do think you're asking a lot of a stock car's cooling to put up with that in Texas summer heat.

JARblue 04-07-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3161911)
What reason could you have for staying above 4500 RPM for an extended amount of time on the street?

In traffic? Zero.

Spirited driving on empty curvy roads? Plenty. That's the powerband :driving:

Davey 04-07-2015 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3161915)
In traffic? Zero.

Spirited driving on empty curvy roads? Plenty. That's the powerband :driving:

:icon17:

Yeah I do plenty of 3rd gear pulls myself. That's how I got my temp above 220. :driving:

I guess your expectations are higher than mine as far as the stock car, I wouldn't expect my brakes to stand up to repeated 130 - 0 stops or the stock cooling to support running wide open and near redline for extended periods.

I guess what I'm saying is, don't roll your eyes at me when I talk about only needing an oil cooler "on the track" when you're treating your lovely Texas back-roads like they are one. ;)

JARblue 04-07-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3161911)
If you're in 3rd doing between 60 - 85 with the gas to the floor for several minutes, sorry, but you're driving on the street like you'd be driving on the track. Not shaking my finger at you, but I do think you're asking a lot of a stock car's cooling to put up with that in Texas summer heat.

lol at 85 in 3rd at 6K RPMs... I don't know about yours, but my 3rd gear redlines at 90 mph.

Speed limit is 55 mph. So I'm cruising around 60-65 through the curves that everyone else slows down on (when there is actually traffic on the road). Also, my gas pedal is not anywhere near close to the floor. I am just at higher RPMs in a lower gear so I can exit the turns quicker because power band. I don't floor it between the curves.

JARblue 04-07-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3161919)
:icon17:

Yeah I do plenty of 3rd gear pulls myself. That's how I got my temp above 220. :driving:

I guess your expectations are higher than mine as far as the stock car, I wouldn't expect my brakes to stand up to repeated 130 - 0 stops or the stock cooling to support running wide open and near redline for extended periods.

I guess what I'm saying is, don't roll your eyes at me when I talk about only needing an oil cooler "on the track" when you're treating your lovely Texas back-roads like they are one. ;)

I think I have very reasonable expectations. I don't expect my car to last more than a few miles when I drive it that hard. I wasn't surprised that I hit 260F yesterday; it was completely expected, and I backed off when needed. I thought I was pretty clear, that I didn't think an extra cooler was necessary for DD or cruising :tiphat:

I've had my Z on the track once. It did better than I expected, frankly. But I knew it couldn't handle it, so I didn't push it. I pulled off early to let her cool down rather than pushing it to limp mode - I made it through 2x 3-lap sessions. Aggressive street driving for me is typically a few minutes or even just a few pulls on certain routes. Nothing sustained. Once it is no longer my DD, I will get an oil cooler and get it on the track for some real :driving:

Davey 04-07-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3161921)
lol at 85 in 3rd at 6K RPMs... I don't know about yours, but my 3rd gear redlines at 90 mph.

I said 85 in 3rd because it's approximately redline in 3rd. :tup:

Tadpole 04-07-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3161162)
August in Texas. Definitely over 100F. Speed is a big factor as well. We were on a toll road with 85 mph speed limit. At 70 mph, I've never had an issue with temps - typically right around 225F or so. But I've found that extra 15-20 mph increases oil temps significantly during the Texas summer weather.

I travel the toll every day 85 to 95 and maybe see 220 on the hottest day. Anything faster than that mine will start creeping up.

Maybe the manuals run hotter since they are inferior?

:rofl2:

Gregor12 04-07-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3161915)
In traffic? Zero.

Spirited driving on empty curvy roads? Plenty. That's the powerband :driving:

EXACTLY. Spirited driving equals a very high oil temp, which makes the car feel very sluggish. What do you expect with that little *** hole in the bumper. Open that beast up!!!! SAWZALL FIXES ALL

Nut_N_Much 04-07-2015 07:24 PM

Wow, came way to late to the party. You guy's are a trip.. :rofl2:

Tadpole 04-07-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregor12 (Post 3162383)
EXACTLY. Spirited driving equals a very high oil temp, which makes the car feel very sluggish. What do you expect with that little *** hole in the bumper. Open that beast up!!!! SAWZALL FIXES ALL

Sawzall?? Pics please.

Gregor12 04-07-2015 07:37 PM

I googled SAWZALL bumper and the first thing that came up was this Lolol enjoy!


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DavidZ370 04-07-2015 07:44 PM

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Gregor12 04-07-2015 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3162448)
Z forum: 1 Stupid Troll:0

go back to being miserable and driving ugly girls on tinder :tup:


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