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Patel511 12-30-2008 01:29 AM

370Z or EVO X
 
Can't choose between the two:

370Z:
2 door coupe
2 seater
V6 NA engine
RWD
Nice powerful engine, but bad in snow and no back seats.

Evo X:
4 door sedan
4 seater
4 cylinder turbo
AWD
Powerful engine but bad highway cruiser revs at 3800 rpms at 80 mph... Okay in snow and has a back seat

I commute from home to school and the car I will get will be my DD

What do u guys think?

xDIEGOx 12-30-2008 01:44 AM

You need to ask yourself a few questions.

1. Are you going to mod it?
2. Do you prefer Turbo or N/A?
3. Do you need back seats?
4. Do you want to struggle in the snow with RWD?
5.Will you have a winter beater if you get the Z?
etc.

Patel511 12-30-2008 02:18 AM

1. yes a little bit.
2. never driven a turbo.
3. yes i need a back seat
4. not really.
5. i have an 06 ml350.

which one is more fun to drive?

Crash 12-30-2008 02:20 AM

LOL! Call me a fanboi, but Z!!! I'm not a fan of 4 doors, but if I needed a car with 4 doors, the Evo would really be a top candidate.

TacoZ 12-30-2008 02:51 AM

I buy my cars based on 3 things:
1: Performance/Fun to Drive (BOTH Z and Evo)
2: Looks (Z)
3: Reliability (Nissan over Mitsubishi)

That's just my opinion. But if you definitely need the all wheel drive and 4 seater than the Evo would be a good car.

Crash 12-30-2008 03:03 AM

Quote:

3: Reliability (Nissan over Mitsubishi)
Ain't that the truth...

SnakeBitten 12-30-2008 05:36 AM

Get some Blizzak tires for winter driving on the Z and it will be alot better in the snow than before but not as good as the EVO. I love em both but if inclement weather scares you go with the EVO. I daily drive my Z all year round here in NYC. Only the really bad snow/ice days I dont drive it.

HotRodPilot 12-30-2008 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 13838)
3. yes i need a back seat

Get the 370Z then, you'll love it's back seat. So will your passengers

Mr. BigHam 12-30-2008 08:32 AM

I would say in your situation, get the evo...I considered the evo as well, but when I found out that that nissan had a 380rs and were going through with the G37, I knew it would only be a matter of time before they released the 370. I live in the south (hate it) and it only snows MAYBE once a year so =/ but it sounds like the evo would be a little easier for you. Unless you get a boner every time you look at the 370 like me :icon17: you cant stop love.

Namir 12-30-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 13838)
1. yes a little bit.
2. never driven a turbo.
3. yes i need a back seat
4. not really.
5. i have an 06 ml350.

which one is more fun to drive?

The Z you can mod a "little" easily, but don't expect big HP unless you go FI.
If you need a back seat then the Evo obviously makes more sense.
It snows in cincy, and you will most likely have to park it and drive your ML.

I would tell you to get a Z since you are on a Z forum but it looks like the EVO would be a better fit for what you need.


Btw, where in cincy are you?

Alexus 12-30-2008 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 13851)
Ain't that the truth...

Actually, Mitsubishi has better quality and dependability ratings than Nissan, and the warranty is... simply amazing. :tiphat:

In any case, definitely G37xS. AWD, sporty, and all that jazz. Only downside for some, however, is that there's not stick on the xS.

Evolved 12-30-2008 12:06 PM

You're comparing an AWD four cylinder turbo car to a RWD NA V6. I'm sure the cars drive very differently and the best thing you can do would be to drive both and then make your decision.

Don't listen to what random people on a message board have to say, make the decision for yourself.

Crash 12-30-2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 13886)
Actually, Mitsubishi has better quality and dependability ratings than Nissan, and the warranty is... simply amazing. :tiphat:

In any case, definitely G37xS. AWD, sporty, and all that jazz. Only downside for some, however, is that there's not stick on the xS.

Motor-wise, any boosted DSM engine will eventually go through crank-walk... Sorry, I don't like DSM motors or trannies. Their warranty is useless if your car is in the shop all the time. I've had a few cars with DSM motors and wasn't impressed. And the Mistu Eclipse I drove around was a hunk of crap. (But it was still pretty fun to dive around)

Evolved 12-30-2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 13901)
Motor-wise, any boosted DSM engine will eventually go through crank-walk... Sorry, I don't like DSM motors or trannies. Their warranty is useless if your car is in the shop all the time. I've had a few cars with DSM motors and wasn't impressed. And the Mistu Eclipse I drove around was a hunk of crap. (But it was still pretty fun to dive around)

First of all the term "DSM" is outdated. Secondly there has never been an issue with crank walk when it comes to the Evo. Third, the 4G63T is one of the better performance engines ever built. Other than that you're spot on.:rolleyes:


Also, if the "car is in the shop all the time" than how can "their warranty be useless"? If it's in the shop, wouldn't you be using the warranty?

For me the warranty was irrelevant because I knew I'd be modding the car beyond simple bolt ons. The free service was nice though.

CrownR426 12-31-2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodpilot (Post 13863)
get the 370z then, you'll love it's back seat. So will your passengers

lol...

Crash 12-31-2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evolved (Post 13936)
First of all the term "DSM" is outdated. Secondly there has never been an issue with crank walk when it comes to the Evo. Third, the 4G63T is one of the better performance engines ever built. Other than that you're spot on.:rolleyes:


Also, if the "car is in the shop all the time" than how can "their warranty be useless"? If it's in the shop, wouldn't you be using the warranty?

For me the warranty was irrelevant because I knew I'd be modding the car beyond simple bolt ons. The free service was nice though.

Good enough for me... DSM is what they were calling motors back when liked some Mitsu/Dodge cars. I was going to buy an Eclipse GSX, but I just didn't want to deal with all the BS behind those motors and the transmissions were ALL crap.

That's why I bought my Z.

Patel511 01-04-2009 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namir (Post 13874)
The Z you can mod a "little" easily, but don't expect big HP unless you go FI.
If you need a back seat then the Evo obviously makes more sense.
It snows in cincy, and you will most likely have to park it and drive your ML.

I would tell you to get a Z since you are on a Z forum but it looks like the EVO would be a better fit for what you need.


Btw, where in cincy are you?

I am located in Mason but I attend UC... Go Bearcats.

crazy-yogi 01-09-2009 06:58 PM

I've been lurking both this site and evolutionm.net because I like both cars so much. They really are different beasts, I would say drive both and go with your gut.

You can't beat the handling and upgrade ease of the new Evo, but I still find myself coming back to the 370z especially after seeing some of the new TT kits and body kits coming out.

stag3 07-18-2009 02:33 AM

damn i'm in the same position 370z or evo X ugh
coming from a turbo car i dont want to go back to n/a rofl

bboypuertoroc 07-18-2009 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 13901)
Motor-wise, any boosted DSM engine will eventually go through crank-walk...

I know this is an old post, but WTF are you talking about?

First off, Evos are NOT DSMs.

Second, the Evo X doesn't even have a 4G63.

Tres, that's three in spanish.

Fourth, crank walk is NOT as wide spread as people think.

Ugh... so many non-informed people I've run into today... :ughdance:

MightyBobo 07-18-2009 06:45 AM

Most people don't even know what the hell DSM even means, or what it applies to. So they just call anything from Mitsu, a DSM.

Balzdeep 07-18-2009 07:21 AM

EVO X for you........

alexanderb 07-18-2009 07:29 AM

I could not get myself to get the Evo X because it looks so much like a regular lancer...

Bdub 07-18-2009 09:45 PM

The Evo looks so huge compared to the IX, like almost like the tires are too small for the size of the body

smurfblu13 07-19-2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexanderb (Post 117600)
I could not get myself to get the Evo X because it looks so much like a regular lancer...

I agree 100% I was behind one today and they just don't have the draw for me personally as a 9(too drunk to do roman numerals sorry lol). But you said you needed a back seat, so it seems like you have your mind set. Although remember as someone said if the 370 is truly what you want then get it. Guaranteed overall in the long you will be disappointed if that is what you want. That's why they made beaters lol :tup:

370Zilla 07-19-2009 09:20 AM

I have had two Evo's. A 600awhp 8, and a bone stock X. Loved the 8. Hated the X after a couple of days. They tried to refine the X, and just missed the mark in my opinion. They should have just left well enough alone. I never thought it was as fun to drive as the 8, even when the 8 was stock.

As far as reliability is concerned, you cannot go wrong with an Evo 8 or 9. Change the clutch, and just proceed to beating the crap out of it. I had over 300 1/4 mile passes, tons of pulls on the dyno, and several track days on mine, with zero issues after replacing the craptastic stock clutch. IMO the 4g63 is one of the most reliable motors on the planet.

With all of that said, I think once I am putting down 350-400 to the wheels in my 370, it will be my favorite ride ever! (including 2 evo's, 2 supra's, GTO, 350z, 300ztt, and about 15 more over the last 20 years...geez I'm getting old)

shabarivas 07-19-2009 01:20 PM

If you mod the Evo at all... you will kiss your warranty goodbye. I am not joking you - people would go to SCAA events locally and scout out what evos where there and some people over at the evo forums got their warranty red flagged just cus they autoXd... with that said... if you think nissan warranty is bad... you will be in for a world of hurt w the evo. I used to have one... if you have never driven a boosted car - you will love the evo... it took me about 2 weeks of driving to realize that boost wasnt all that... its fast / it can be fast.. but you do not get the feedback the Z gives you. There is a certain kick I get from knowing its just me and the car - not some crazy computer deciding how to modulate my wheels.... thats my 2c... i can give you more info if you wanna pm me on what i think of the evo awd...

If you are gonna drive the car at the limit - dont get the evo.. it will make you a bad driver w/ any other car... that i promise you....

bboypuertoroc 07-20-2009 03:56 AM

I still have my warranty... but I do agree, some dealerships are psycho. Hell, even worse is Subaru. I remember back when I bought my Evo that Subaru was handing out free one-year SCCA memberships... but if you actually used the membership, your warranty was gone.

The two warranty issues I had with my Evo were both covered (but weren't major at all... shift knob and lights).

B1nks 07-20-2009 09:31 AM

You know it's funny because I spend some time over at evolutionm.net because a buddy of mine owns an Evo 8 and everyone on there hates the highway on the damn evo. There was talk about Mitsubishi going bankrupt too(dunno how true that is) and having to pull out of America a bit(as far as dealerships and such). My buddy LOVES his 8 and like the other guy said all he did was replace the clutch cause it sucks. I am curious why you don't choose between the STi and the 370z. STi to me just seems like a better vehicle right now compared to the flappy paddle evo or the shitty manual they offer. I chose because I was looking for excellence, that's why I got the 370Z !:driving::happydance:

shabarivas 07-20-2009 10:56 AM

^ not to go back there but the X > IX and co all day long

shabarivas 07-20-2009 12:19 PM

^ i was just joking lol... mod for mod all evos are amazing cars... as is any stock turbo... but... the X has been doing well for how much was expected from it. Once you mod - who cares its not apples to apples... so lets not even go there. Honestly - If you are going to mod the crap out the car - get an evo and pick whatever one you think looks better... regardless of VIII -> X it wont really matter... they all can be reaaalllyyy fast

Mitsuyager9 03-01-2010 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 13851)
Ain't that the truth...

Where are you getting this from...Iv owned two cars of both makes and they are both great for reliability plus the mitsu's make more power for way cheaper. I have an associates in applied science for automotive and have been a mechanic for almost six years btw. As for the op these cars are toatally different animals. If you live somewhere where you get snow and have more than one freind (lol jk) I mean if you need four doors than the evo is probably your best bet. And don't go off of a brand new test drive in the x because most dealerships will put the ecu in valle mode so people don't thrash then wich makes it a very dissapointing experience. Gl with the decision

bloodo 03-01-2010 11:15 AM

You are a bit late Mitsuyager9. The OP posted this more than a 1 year ago.

feelzpwr91 03-01-2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patel511 (Post 13838)
1. yes a little bit.
2. never driven a turbo.
3. yes i need a back seat
4. not really.
5. i have an 06 ml350.

which one is more fun to drive?

if you need a back seat you'll probably want to go with the evo lol.

fairladyZ34 03-01-2010 12:57 PM

evo 9!!!!!

370zdub 03-07-2010 03:13 PM

:facepalm: this thread has been dead since last july...


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