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edk370 10-03-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2983823)
People have short term memories or are too young too remember what it was like to race against modified civics and integras in the 90's. If this car is a resurgence of that era? This car will be very respectable. That said, respectable hatches don't come to the US anymore... Ford, AN AMERICAN CORPORATION even took 2 decades to give us the European focus. Lol.

I think the "sport compact" era is a bygone. That's the "JDM, tuner crowd." I doubt there will be a resurgence.

It was cool when it was novel, when guys were swapping a twin-cammed VTECs in a 2000lb. CRX/Civic able to keep up with a stock Camaro V8 or something, bitd. Or when people turbo'd their motors with custom turbo setups...and Hondas hit 12s or faster. But when it became ubiquitous in the later 90s to mid 2000s....it lost its panache.

We're too spoiled these days anyways, with cars that are already really fast stock. I mean, supercars were doing low 13s/high 12s 10 yrs. ago. Now 12s is what the low 14s were bitd. Car manufacturers are gunning for 10s and 130+ trap speeds and 650+ hp. It's getting crazy...and I'm digressing :icon17:

edk370 10-03-2014 08:36 PM

89 CRX HF. B16A cable tranny. DC 4-1 header. Generic intake. Test pipe. Custom 2.5" muffler with pea-shooter tip. Mugen chipped ECU. Autometer tach. Gutted interior. Low 14s no problem....The good ol' days ;)

Boost_lee 10-04-2014 02:45 PM

I think the car looks great. I'm happy to see that Honda is stepping their game up after all these years. Starting with a turbo platform, I bet the aftermarket for this thing will be nuts

UNKNOWN_370 10-04-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by edk370 (Post 2988277)
I think the "sport compact" era is a bygone. That's the "JDM, tuner crowd." I doubt there will be a resurgence.

It was cool when it was novel, when guys were swapping a twin-cammed VTECs in a 2000lb. CRX/Civic able to keep up with a stock Camaro V8 or something, bitd. Or when people turbo'd their motors with custom turbo setups...and Hondas hit 12s or faster. But when it became ubiquitous in the later 90s to mid 2000s....it lost its panache.

We're too spoiled these days anyways, with cars that are already really fast stock. I mean, supercars were doing low 13s/high 12s 10 yrs. ago. Now 12s is what the low 14s were bitd. Car manufacturers are gunning for 10s and 130+ trap speeds and 650+ hp. It's getting crazy...and I'm digressing :icon17:

This is why the civic si and Integra gs-r were indoctrinated. So there were no longer a need for engine swaps in the U.S.
Tuning as whole is not as popular anymore. I don't think it's because of a lack of interest or "better stock motors". It's literally because the F&F movie series single-handedly commercialized racing/tuning and murdered the affordability of the sport/artform.
What was a reasonable sport for the working poor is now an expensive pastime for the wealthy. For some reason, the wealthy no longer go into Porsche and higher dealerships to buy sports cars on the same level they used to. They buy sub-premium cars, then take their brand new cars to tuner shops and have a completely modified car 8 weeks after a cars release. It's no longer the slow caring process it once was. And the ones who do are a minority nowadays.
It's not that it's a novelty, commercialization has placed tuning/racing out of the average Joe's monitary reach.

Turbo engines will hopefully give the working poor back some of it's access due to less complex parts and procedures to tune turbo engines. NA engines cost way too much to get serious power out of, unless you intend for your car to only receive breather mods. This Honda definitely gives more access and I expect it to be an aftermarket success

falconfixer 10-04-2014 04:17 PM

I wonder how it'll sound with 2 Folger's cans under the back end? If this thing ever made it to the US, I'm buying stock in Autozone and Pep Boys.

edk370 10-05-2014 09:38 PM

^In CA, it had a lot more to do with the fact that law enforcement got FAR MORE stricter when they caught people street racing. If you get caught street racing, they can impound your car and destroy it (compact it). The street racing scene has died down a lot if not completely disappeared. Plus, too many idiots killed innocent bystanders or themselves or the idiots who challenged them (lost control of the car), or all of the above. Plus, since CA is the most populated state with cars, the smog laws are very strict. When I had my swapped CRX, although it just had Eibachs and a subtle (non fart can) muffler, cops used to pull me over at least 2, 3 times a year. I got sick of it. Plus, I thought the scene was getting ghetto and immature (especially as I was hitting my later 20s). Cops were making people pop their hoods because stolen DOHC VTECs were becoming common in CA.

If a resurgence of "Type R" happens...it'll be like a 'not so exciting' sequel to a movie. Plus Integra Type-Rs were almost $30,000 new. They're still $25,000 used for clean examples. The import scene here in CA had its best days. It was a fad at best.

DjSquall 10-06-2014 05:39 AM

As much as I hate to admit it... I absolutely love the new type R. Definitely a game changer

watson853 10-06-2014 07:50 AM

Last I new this car was not coming to the states has that changed?


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Firebase99 10-06-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853 (Post 2990025)
Last I new this car was not coming to the states has that changed?


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Gawd, keep that abortion over sea's please. There are far too many fart cans as it, this will triple the Fast and Furious DB crowd.

Firebase99 10-06-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 2986934)
lol, everybody's a critic.. go play with your gennie... your kind isn't welcomed here...:stirthepot:

Lemme guess...backwards base ball cap, wife beater and pants around groin, amiright? lol

kenchan 10-06-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Niche79 (Post 2987394)
In short, Honda needs to bring this car to America to start reviving its brand to younger buyers. They are their future after all!

i think they would, if their potential customers weren't so frikken cheap. :ugh:

you even got folks here comparing it to some veloci-shitt and GTI? wtf...

Isamu 10-06-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 2990035)
Lemme guess...backwards base ball cap, wife beater and pants around groin, amiright? lol

not even close

G37sHKS 10-07-2014 06:44 AM

FWD? Pass.

Isamu 10-07-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2991503)
FWD? Pass.

it's a civic, of course it's FWD..

but could you imagine a rwd CRX.. :ohlawd: I have seent it..

a small block chevy v-8 stuffed into a CRX with matching drive train.. it was sexy


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