2016 Alpha platform Camaro

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-14-2016, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

Numbers on 370 are from my personal ~Z~ and not from a magazine, numbers from camaro came from Hennessy 0-170 video - before & after.... They had a M/T in the camaro...might have been why it was slower- I posted my video- count the seconds on the frames

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Just provide the video link so we can see everything instead of a snippet of a pic.

jchammond · 02-14-2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Just provide the video link so we can see everything instead of a snippet of a pic.

Camaro
http://youtu.be/yEGHZnoBoHA

jchammond · 02-14-2016, 09:57 AM

Just for fun! for the 9sec. camaro
http://youtu.be/EJFB66bZf08

JDubya · 02-14-2016, 10:40 AM

So, what you've done here is single out one specific source that seems to fit your argument (it doesn't) and ignore the numerous other magazine publications' numbers that are testing the car. I hope to god you aren't a lawyer.

Let's see...using your own evidence against you. I think you watched that Hennessey video with the sound off. You'll notice the driver say "I had a bad launch, the surface wasn't prepped at all, the car has a bit more in it." Also, if you actually watch the video, you'll notice he's short shifting the car throughout almost every gear (and still gets better numbers than a Z ever will).

It's also funny how your original 0-150 times you posted from the Hennessey video are completely wrong. The car rolls out at 6 seconds, hits 150 at 31 seconds (you can do the math). All that with a poor launch. All I see are 370z's hitting 0-150 in the low/mid 30s (including your video).

The whole point in me linking the video for the 9 second Camaro was to show the potential of the car with very limited modifications. The 370z doesn't have (to my knowledge), an NA version of the car even close to those kind of numbers, especially with that limited amount of money put into it.

What is your counter-argument to that video? Oh i'll post a 350z RACE CAR with at least $100k dumped into it that runs a 6.56 1/4 mile. You may as well have posted a video of an AMS GTR and told us how much faster it is than the almost-stock Camaro. The only thing 350z about that car is that they decided to make the completely modified body look like a Z.

But you know what, I'll again entertain you by posting something equally as idiotic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChgDquG8GlA. Look, a completely different model year Camaro running into 5's! I sure showed you!

I really don't know what else to tell you at this point. Everyone with any actual knowledge of cars (or just the ability to read) knows that the 2016 Camaros (the V8 in particular) are just better cars than the 370z, from a performance perspective. For whatever reason, you refuse to see it. You're like a husband defending his wife even though he knows she's wrong. Yea, we get it--you love the Z (so do all of us), but sometimes you just have to be honest and tell someone when they're wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, if the Z wants to compete with this car, it's onto the Z35. I don't want to derail this thread, as there's already a lengthy thread on the Z35, but we can only hope Nissan gives us something great that can compete with the newest generation of these cars.

A bit more on topic, but I'll be interested to see what track numbers look like as they start to roll out (i.e., both cars' times on the same track).

jchammond · 02-14-2016, 11:14 AM

You have to really hate your car/ may as well sell it to someone who will appreciate it.... You probably don't even own a ~Z~

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jchammond · 02-14-2016, 11:17 AM

I try to lift up other Z owners,,, sure: if I wanted a camaro- I would have bought one... I just know the potential of these cars haven't been seen yet!

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JDubya · 02-14-2016, 11:27 AM

Really? You're resorting to "you probably don't even own a Z?" Come on, man. Now you're just posting drivel. After reading your posts, I'm not shocked you'd post something like this, but it's still disappointing that this is what you resort to.

I'm not sure why I'm again entertaining you, but here you go, with my ugly winter wheel setup on and dirty as hell:

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I can appreciate you trying to lift up Z owners, but I'm not sure that it's doing them any favors. The car is 8 years old. The potential of them has been seen.

I absolutely love my Z. I love how rare it is, how it looks and the performance for the money (this used to be a lot better of course). But I'm a realist as well. I'll admit that I do yearn for more performance, as the Z is so dated. It does frustrate me to see companies like Chevy come out with these amazing cars and Nissan sit on the bench. I'm optimistic Nissan is going to "Wow" me soon enough, though. Granted, that optimism may be misplaced.

jchammond · 02-14-2016, 11:44 AM

Now; I can agree on the 2nd part of your statement about Nissan coming out from the Factory with it. That is true/ but with the GTR being their eyepiece-gonna have to mod to keep up.
Sorry if I disrespected you in any way- from the factory: the Z will not keep up with the 16' (but I like building my own)

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JDubya · 02-14-2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

Now; I can agree on the 2nd part of your statement about Nissan coming out from the Factory with it. That is true/ but with the GTR being their eyepiece-gonna have to mod to keep up.
Sorry if I disrespected you in any way- from the factory: the Z will not keep up with the 16' (but I like building my own)

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No disrespect taken at all, no worries, we're good. I'm with ya on the GTR part. They love the hell out of that car and are likely super focused on it (can't blame them too much). I just want some of that love into the next Z.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-16-2016, 10:31 AM

https://youtu.be/MLPvxA131t0

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-18-2016, 05:56 PM

BOO YAH!!!!!!!

2017 Camaro SS 1LE Might Be Faster On Track Than Mustang GT350

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-18-2016, 06:01 PM

Remember all the mustang jockers on here that hung up their Z's cuz it wasn't fast enough and **** talked camaro's?

News like this makes smile... Moral to the story... That car you think is wack today... May kick your *** tomorrow!?
Lol

Firebase99 · 02-18-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Remember all the mustang jockers on here that hung up their Z's cuz it wasn't fast enough and **** talked camaro's?

News like this makes smile... Moral to the story... That car you think is wack today... May kick your *** tomorrow!?
Lol

Yes totally agree. That's why I don't care TOO much about all power/speed. There's always gonna be something faster. That being said I still won't be driving a BRZ. Get what you want. If it's a blue oval,get it. Got flags on it? Get it. Has one letter...get the thing.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-18-2016, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Yes totally agree. That's why I don't care TOO much about all power/speed. There's always gonna be something faster. That being said I still won't be driving a BRZ. Get what you want. If it's a blue oval,get it. Got flags on it? Get it. Has one letter...get the thing.

I agree bruh... I like the new stang. Don't get it twisted but 2010/2012, thus forum shoulda been called the mustang forum. Or the Mustang Z bashing forum. I never saw so much hate on a car forum for the actual car. While c0ck worshipping Ford

Which reigns true what us Z enthusiasts say.
"You either get it or you don't... Most don't get the Z"

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-19-2016, 10:02 AM

2017 Chevy Camaro 1LE Price Will Increase | GM Authority

Camaro 1LE package WILL cost more than the 5th gen which was $3,500 but promise it will be less than $5,000. I'm guessing $4,500?

Due to technology they has to increase the price.

02-14-2016, 09:57 AM	#633 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	Just for fun! for the 9sec. camaro http://youtu.be/EJFB66bZf08 __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

02-14-2016, 10:40 AM	#634 (permalink)
JDubya Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 94 Drives: '14 Mid. Blue 6MT Rep Power: 15	So, what you've done here is single out one specific source that seems to fit your argument (it doesn't) and ignore the numerous other magazine publications' numbers that are testing the car. I hope to god you aren't a lawyer. Let's see...using your own evidence against you. I think you watched that Hennessey video with the sound off. You'll notice the driver say "I had a bad launch, the surface wasn't prepped at all, the car has a bit more in it." Also, if you actually watch the video, you'll notice he's short shifting the car throughout almost every gear (and still gets better numbers than a Z ever will). It's also funny how your original 0-150 times you posted from the Hennessey video are completely wrong. The car rolls out at 6 seconds, hits 150 at 31 seconds (you can do the math). All that with a poor launch. All I see are 370z's hitting 0-150 in the low/mid 30s (including your video). The whole point in me linking the video for the 9 second Camaro was to show the potential of the car with very limited modifications. The 370z doesn't have (to my knowledge), an NA version of the car even close to those kind of numbers, especially with that limited amount of money put into it. What is your counter-argument to that video? Oh i'll post a 350z RACE CAR with at least $100k dumped into it that runs a 6.56 1/4 mile. You may as well have posted a video of an AMS GTR and told us how much faster it is than the almost-stock Camaro. The only thing 350z about that car is that they decided to make the completely modified body look like a Z. But you know what, I'll again entertain you by posting something equally as idiotic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChgDquG8GlA. Look, a completely different model year Camaro running into 5's! I sure showed you! I really don't know what else to tell you at this point. Everyone with any actual knowledge of cars (or just the ability to read) knows that the 2016 Camaros (the V8 in particular) are just better cars than the 370z, from a performance perspective. For whatever reason, you refuse to see it. You're like a husband defending his wife even though he knows she's wrong. Yea, we get it--you love the Z (so do all of us), but sometimes you just have to be honest and tell someone when they're wrong. As far as I'm concerned, if the Z wants to compete with this car, it's onto the Z35. I don't want to derail this thread, as there's already a lengthy thread on the Z35, but we can only hope Nissan gives us something great that can compete with the newest generation of these cars. A bit more on topic, but I'll be interested to see what track numbers look like as they start to roll out (i.e., both cars' times on the same track). Last edited by JDubya; 02-14-2016 at 10:58 AM.

02-14-2016, 11:14 AM	#635 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	You have to really hate your car/ may as well sell it to someone who will appreciate it.... You probably don't even own a ~Z~ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

02-14-2016, 11:17 AM	#636 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	I try to lift up other Z owners,,, sure: if I wanted a camaro- I would have bought one... I just know the potential of these cars haven't been seen yet! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

02-14-2016, 11:27 AM	#637 (permalink)
JDubya Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 94 Drives: '14 Mid. Blue 6MT Rep Power: 15	Really? You're resorting to "you probably don't even own a Z?" Come on, man. Now you're just posting drivel. After reading your posts, I'm not shocked you'd post something like this, but it's still disappointing that this is what you resort to. I'm not sure why I'm again entertaining you, but here you go, with my ugly winter wheel setup on and dirty as hell: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet I can appreciate you trying to lift up Z owners, but I'm not sure that it's doing them any favors. The car is 8 years old. The potential of them has been seen. I absolutely love my Z. I love how rare it is, how it looks and the performance for the money (this used to be a lot better of course). But I'm a realist as well. I'll admit that I do yearn for more performance, as the Z is so dated. It does frustrate me to see companies like Chevy come out with these amazing cars and Nissan sit on the bench. I'm optimistic Nissan is going to "Wow" me soon enough, though. Granted, that optimism may be misplaced. falconfixer likes this. Last edited by JDubya; 02-14-2016 at 11:35 AM.

02-14-2016, 11:44 AM	#638 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	Now; I can agree on the 2nd part of your statement about Nissan coming out from the Factory with it. That is true/ but with the GTR being their eyepiece-gonna have to mod to keep up. Sorry if I disrespected you in any way- from the factory: the Z will not keep up with the 16' (but I like building my own) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

02-16-2016, 10:31 AM	#640 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	https://youtu.be/MLPvxA131t0 FPenvy likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

02-18-2016, 05:56 PM	#641 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	BOO YAH!!!!!!! 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Might Be Faster On Track Than Mustang GT350 __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

02-18-2016, 06:01 PM	#642 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Remember all the mustang jockers on here that hung up their Z's cuz it wasn't fast enough and ** talked camaro's? News like this makes smile... Moral to the story... That car you think is wack today... May kick your * tomorrow!? Lol falconfixer and Firebase99 like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

02-19-2016, 10:02 AM	#645 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	2017 Chevy Camaro 1LE Price Will Increase \| GM Authority Camaro 1LE package WILL cost more than the 5th gen which was $3,500 but promise it will be less than $5,000. I'm guessing $4,500? Due to technology they has to increase the price. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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