2016 Alpha platform Camaro

Jordo! · 10-19-2014, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Limeybastard

How comes they keep facelifting this and the mustang almost every year?

Because they are ugly, atavistic monsters; Neanderthals with enormous, overhanging brows, slack jaws, and hairy, callused hamfists that scrape the ground as they move.

On that note, does this latest iteration have an IRS like the latest Mustang?

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-22-2014, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Because they are ugly, atavistic monsters; Neanderthals with enormous, overhanging brows, slack jaws, and hairy, callused hamfists that scrape the ground as they move.

On that note, does this latest iteration have an IRS like the latest Mustang?

Camaro had irs since the early 80's

Jordo! · 10-22-2014, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Camaro had irs since the early 80's

I did not know that. The last one of those I drove was a mid 70's model

280z/300zx · 10-24-2014, 10:49 AM

Lot of hate on the Camaro when it's actually a really good car. My fiancé had a 2010 SS 6-speed for four years and I loved it. Still preferred my 370z NISMO over it at the time but a solid car none the less. Easy to drive fast and handled very well given it's size/weight. My Z would barely keep up in the straights and was only slightly faster on your average auto-x course.

Last year she traded it in for a 2014 Camaro 1LE which back then was very obscure and only recently has come to light in the general population. I was surprised how much better the Camaro became with the 1LE package. So much so that I almost got my own 1LE after selling my Z earlier this year. The Camaro 1LE is faster in both a straight line and on a road course compared to the Z, much easier to drive faster, more confident inspiring, essentially it does everything better than the Z in my opinion from a performance standpoint. Yes you can argue the looks or interior or whatever. Personally interiors as long as they are decent don't mean **** to me. As for looks I still prefer the look of the Z but I love the mean look of the 14's 1LE. Given the option I'd take a 1LE over any option from the Z.

I bet this new generation will be better, or at least I hope so. If they carry over all the good things of the current generation on a smaller and lighter frame it will be very hard to compete with. Given Nissan and pretty much every other Japanese companies unwillingness to push performance cars forward I don't have high hopes for the next gen Z.

All this coming from someone who has owned a Z since he was 17 which at this point is half my life. Nissan really needs to do something special if it wants me back into a new Z. Otherwise I'll be happy with my old Z's going forward.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-15-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I did not know that. The last one of those I drove was a mid 70's model

Yup, the Knight Rider era Camaro/Firebird aka the C3, was the first to have independent rear suspension.

I think the C6 silhouette is somewhat reminiscent of the C3

90 ST · 03-30-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

If camaro doesn't have false paneling under the camoflauge? This is what it will look like?

TopSpeed Renders Up A Look At The 2016 Camaro

In other words virtually identical styling... I am praying those are false panels on the pre-production. It would have been nice if they modernized the 70-81 camaro. That was an awesome bodystyle that would have been very aerodynamic as a modern reiteration. 82-92 would have been better.

(Thes thoughts based on THE MUSCLE group can't get out the past. Lol.)

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yup, the Knight Rider era Camaro/Firebird aka the C3, was the first to have independent rear suspension.

I think the C6 silhouette is somewhat reminiscent of the C3

I've never seen a pre 2010 Camaro with IRS.

This would have been a sweet look...

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-30-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST

I've never seen a pre 2010 Camaro with IRS.

This would have been a sweet look...

You would be mistaken, because the camaro has been IRS since 1982.

/RI-lukE09gs

mults · 03-30-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You would be mistaken, because the camaro has been IRS since 1982.

/RI-lukE09gs

I had a 1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula (same as a Camaro) and there was no IRS. Solid axle all the way...

90 ST · 03-30-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You would be mistaken, because the camaro has been IRS since 1982.

/RI-lukE09gs

2010 was the first year a Camaro had IRS...trust me.
Fifth Generation (2010-Present)

After eight years of flying the Chevy flag at half-mast, Camaro enthusiasts had their prayers answered when Chevrolet brought back its road burner for 2010. Initially available only as a coupe in base LS, midlevel LT and V8-powered SS models, this is without a doubt the best Camaro to date. The retro styling borrows shamelessly from the 1969 Camaro, down to the cowl-induction-style hood, Coke bottle profile, cross-hatch grille and rear-quarter gills. Yet it's not a complete knock-off, as the 2010 has a huskier stance and is noticeably thicker in the rear haunches. The cockpit is mostly modern, with a few old-school touches thrown in such as a quartet of gauges located down low in front of the gearshifter. The latter isn't exactly an ergonomic success, but they pay homage to the optional setup of the late '60s. The available RS package (essentially an appearance package) adds bigger (20-inch) wheels, a rear spoiler, HID headlights and smoked taillights.

Unlike before, getting a V6 Camaro doesn't mean "plenty of show but not so much go." The LS and LT come packing 304 hp via a direct-injected, 3.6-liter V6. It also has a six-speed manual transmission (six-speed automatic optional), disc brakes all around, an independent rear suspension (a Camaro first) and 18-inch wheels. At a base price of around $23,000, the entry-level Camaro offers a heavy dose of performance that's light on the wallet. With 0-to-60 and quarter-mile times of 6.0 and 14.2 seconds, respectively, these are seriously rapid cars.

The big-dog SS has a 6.2-liter V8 with either 426 hp (with six-speed manual) or 400 hp (with six-speed automatic) as well as meatier Brembo disc brakes. With the ability to leap to 60 mph in 5 seconds and tear down the quarter-mile in 13 seconds flat, the SS will show its taillights to virtually any Camaro that came before, perhaps even the super rare ZL-1 of 1969. And in terms of unraveling a twisty road, the latest Camaro has no peer with its elders, thanks to a finely balanced and tuned chassis, the aforementioned independent rear end and quick, communicative steering.

Jordo! · 03-30-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST

I've never seen a pre 2010 Camaro with IRS.

This would have been a sweet look...

I wish they would have made that -- I like it much better.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-30-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST

I've never seen a pre 2010 Camaro with IRS.

This would have been a sweet look...

THAT WAS MY FAVORITE rendering of the camaro!!!!

Too bad thats not the C6

90 ST · 03-30-2015, 04:49 PM

C6...

Gen 6 (Camaro) would have been sweet if it had the Gen 2 look.

10-24-2014, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 273	Lot of hate on the Camaro when it's actually a really good car. My fiancé had a 2010 SS 6-speed for four years and I loved it. Still preferred my 370z NISMO over it at the time but a solid car none the less. Easy to drive fast and handled very well given it's size/weight. My Z would barely keep up in the straights and was only slightly faster on your average auto-x course. Last year she traded it in for a 2014 Camaro 1LE which back then was very obscure and only recently has come to light in the general population. I was surprised how much better the Camaro became with the 1LE package. So much so that I almost got my own 1LE after selling my Z earlier this year. The Camaro 1LE is faster in both a straight line and on a road course compared to the Z, much easier to drive faster, more confident inspiring, essentially it does everything better than the Z in my opinion from a performance standpoint. Yes you can argue the looks or interior or whatever. Personally interiors as long as they are decent don't mean **** to me. As for looks I still prefer the look of the Z but I love the mean look of the 14's 1LE. Given the option I'd take a 1LE over any option from the Z. I bet this new generation will be better, or at least I hope so. If they carry over all the good things of the current generation on a smaller and lighter frame it will be very hard to compete with. Given Nissan and pretty much every other Japanese companies unwillingness to push performance cars forward I don't have high hopes for the next gen Z. All this coming from someone who has owned a Z since he was 17 which at this point is half my life. Nissan really needs to do something special if it wants me back into a new Z. Otherwise I'll be happy with my old Z's going forward. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 77 280z, 82 280zx, 84 300zx, 2021 C8 Z51 09 370z sport/touring -RIP// 10 370z NISMO - sold

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