2016 Alpha platform Camaro

DCNISMO · 05-19-2015, 10:52 AM

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Chevy also focused on a huge variety of in-house aftermarket to support Chevy this generation. I think they are hoping to make their extra cash in the in-house aftermarket?

Typically as with Ford, you have to have a dealer install the parts. But I agree, its leaving money on the table if they don't offer some aftermarket parts. But they have to be real careful about emissions and crash tests too. Being a big OEM supplier they have to meet all the federal regs that most tuners and parts manufacturers never pay attention too, as it costs big buck to get CARB and EPA certified.

m4a1mustang · 05-19-2015, 11:02 AM

I'm in the same camp with everyone else. The more I see it the more I like it.

I feel like Ford tried to do too much to cater to both old and new buyer's tastes, whereas Chevy stuck with one theme and came out with a better flow to the design, better proportions, etc. Like UNKNOWN said, it will be interesting to see how they respond in the coming years. They have their work cut out for them as Chevy seems to be several steps ahead.

The interior tech offered also appears to be superior. Just compare the gauge clusters... way more modern than the Mustang.

Definitely want to check one out. I want to buy a C7, but if I needed a 2+2 I think I'd probably end up with a Camaro over a Mustang (pending a test drive, of course.)

FPenvy · 05-19-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm in the same camp with everyone else. The more I see it the more I like it.

I feel like Ford tried to do too much to cater to both old and new buyer's tastes, whereas Chevy stuck with one theme and came out with a better flow to the design, better proportions, etc. Like UNKNOWN said, it will be interesting to see how they respond in the coming years. They have their work cut out for them as Chevy seems to be several steps ahead.

The interior tech offered also appears to be superior. Just compare the gauge clusters... way more modern than the Mustang.

Definitely want to check one out. I want to buy a C7, but if I needed a 2+2 I think I'd probably end up with a Camaro over a Mustang (pending a test drive, of course.)

its continually growing on me as well.

I want to test drive one regardless of whatever I plan on buying next. just want to see the difference between it and the outgoing boat sized model.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-19-2015, 03:34 PM

I think, styling wise we were all looking for radical changes... Like somehow, the proportions of the camoflauged mule were supposed to radically change. I guess we were hoping for camo moldings fooling us on the shape.
But when the Mustang came out... I felt disappointed too. It took me a visit to the Dallas auto show to see how nicely crafted the Mustang is... I think the Mustang is leagues nicer looking than the last gen. Street performance doesn't disappoint and quality is there... Theres a couple of cheap plasticky areas to the mustang interior that I'm surprised over considering how high it can get up in price. But when loaded out. You'll notice the bigger ticket items over the plastic.
That said, Mustang interior quality improved in materials but is closer to the revised 2012+ mustang in styling while Camaro went radically different with minor hints to the last gen interior. Lighting and seats seem more aggressive and the Camaro stance looks meaner. While the Camaro grille and the Malibu share some styling hints. It's not plagued with the fusion coupe stigma of theMustang. Those will be some brownie points for the Camaro in terms of sales. The camaro rear seems to need more drama though considering the amount of real estate back there..
That said, it seems how nice the Camaro looks will be strongly color dependent. Not every color looks all that, such as the electric blue Camaro... It's not a great color at least from pictures. I can't say the Mustang has a bad color to it. Every color brilliantly matches the Mustangs lines and curves.

The mustang is nice enough for Mustang die hards to keep choosing it next year. But I think this camaro will hit 6 figure sales first year out.

Red__Zed · 05-19-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

its continually growing on me as well.

I want to test drive one regardless of whatever I plan on buying next. just want to see the difference between it and the outgoing boat sized model.

I'm kind of irritated the Camaro looks so good on paper. I feel like I need to drive one before I buy anything, and I want to spend money now.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-19-2015, 03:42 PM

FPenvy · 05-19-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I'm kind of irritated the Camaro looks so good on paper. I feel like I need to drive one before I buy anything, and I want to spend money now.

agreed. once the local chevy dealer gets their first SS that isn't already sold i'll go get a test drive.

Brightside there will be plenty shipped. shouldn't take long.

m4a1mustang · 05-19-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I'm kind of irritated the Camaro looks so good on paper. I feel like I need to drive one before I buy anything, and I want to spend money now.

Yeah that's pretty annoying. I want to drive a Camaro SS before I buy a C7... just to make sure.

Jordo! · 05-19-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

GM said the first year pricing will look very similar to current pricing
It is also said that unlike Mustang. Chevy is not limiting the optioning to the Chevy base cars. You will be able to option out a turbo 4, a v6 and v8 the same way.
Chevy also focused on a huge variety of in-house aftermarket to support Chevy this generation. I think they are hoping to make their extra cash in the in-house aftermarket?

I think the 4 and 6 will only be $1000-2000 difference in price

I'd be surprised if they're that close -- you get a LOT more power with the V6. No one will buy the turbo 4.

Although looking at current pricing on Edmunds, they already came close to the Z on price and power for the V6, and the V8 was only a few grand more.

Hmm.

I'd be thinking about this myself if they offered a trans-am firebird...

Well, and I also prefer a two-seater.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-19-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I'd be surprised if they're that close -- you get a LOT more power with the V6. No one will buy the turbo 4.

Although looking at current pricing on Edmunds, they already came close to the Z on price and power for the V6, and the V8 was only a few grand more.

Hmm.

I'd be thinking about this myself if they offered a trans-am firebird...

Well, and I also prefer a two-seater.

The mod potential is much greater on the 4. I think the overall reasoning for the turbos in both mustang and camaro is the hopes of gaining 150hp with $3,000 after parts and tune. Being Z drivers we know it's a bitch modding an NA v6. NA V8's have more potential with NA parts. V6 engines don't get far in the mod arena without laying down a dozen grand in aftermarket turbos and engine forging. Young folk want to hear screaming BOV's and aftermarket exhausts on howling 4's. The v6 is for the daily driver who appreciates, fuel econ, camaro style and handling.

I think Chevy intends to sell lots of aftermarket engine parts for the 4 and 8. If you've ever driven an ATS performance pack car? You'll see why the 2.0 is desireable. I prefer it over the 3.6 even though the 3.6 is faster in the Caddy.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-19-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm in the same camp with everyone else. The more I see it the more I like it.

I feel like Ford tried to do too much to cater to both old and new buyer's tastes, whereas Chevy stuck with one theme and came out with a better flow to the design, better proportions, etc. Like UNKNOWN said, it will be interesting to see how they respond in the coming years. They have their work cut out for them as Chevy seems to be several steps ahead.

The interior tech offered also appears to be superior. Just compare the gauge clusters... way more modern than the Mustang.

Definitely want to check one out. I want to buy a C7, but if I needed a 2+2 I think I'd probably end up with a Camaro over a Mustang (pending a test drive, of course.)

I honestly think this is going to be an 8.5/10th vette if not a 9/10ths vette. I think the real difference in these cars will show at the limit on a complex track. I think on a moderate track, a potential 1LE package would be on par with the vette in most instances. I predict the camaro being the best bang for buck out of any car under $55k

As far as the Z goes, in another thread i mention my own wild speculations for a future Z? If those specs arent met? The Z will be a bigger sales disappointment than the Z34.

Chevy really did a role reversal putting america back on the map internationally. And if this C8 MR vette comes to fruition in 2017? It's going to be on.
Also, the Chevy sonic RS needs to get redesigned to be more aggressive and have power between a Fiesta STand a Focus ST with Fiesta weight and mod potential for high BOOST. With pricing right in between both. That would put the Sonic fitting perfectly in the hot hatch arena and chevy would even be a competitor there as well.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-19-2015, 10:19 PM

The widy body kit and racing stripe look murderous. I'm officially in love!!

FPenvy · 05-20-2015, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The widy body kit and racing stripe look murderous. I'm officially in love!!

I actually really like that lol

damn you for showing me this.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-20-2015, 11:01 AM

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May 19, 2015 - 11:30 am ET -- UPDATED: 5/20/15 9:43 am ET
Chevrolet, on the heels of the redesigned Ford Mustang, is bringing out a reskinned and re-engineered Camaro sports car for 2016, raising the ante in Detroit's pony car battle. Here's a look at what some journalists and analysts have to say about the latest Camaro.

"The new seating position is excellent, and the new lower dashboard helps with outward forward visibility. But the Camaro still makes you feel like you're sitting in a bunker, looking out of a gun slit. Ride and handling are outstanding, with the suspension able to soak up track imperfections with ease, while not disturbing either the steering or stability. The brakes feel much stronger as well. The 2015 model's brakes felt squishy and overworked after several laps with journalists at the wheel, but the 2016 model exhibited no fade or softness in the pedal."

-- Aaron Bragman, cars.com

"The Camaro rides on a platform that is significantly lighter than the one used before. You immediately feel this in every aspect of the new car's dynamics, whether you're punching the gas on a straightaway, or braking as hard as you can for a 90-degree corner. This is a smoother, more linear-feeling Camaro, one that doesn't have the heft of the previous model -- and is all the better for it."

-- Nick Kurczewski, New York Daily News

"Welcome to Golden Era II of the muscle car where Chevy, Ford, and Dodge are in a dog -- er, pony -- fight for segment supremacy not unlike the Big Three pickup wars. But where Dodge's ferocious, new, 707-horsepower Challenger Hellcat is the undisputed king of brawn, the Camaro and Mustang are exploring new frontiers for muscle car handling. Frontiers like race tracks -- traditionally venues reserved for introducing track-tuned, alphanumeric-badged beasts like a Z28 or GT500, not a base Camaro ... These aren't your grand-dad's '60s Dream Cruisers that sprinted like stallions from a stoplight but wallowed like pigs through the twisties. Handling? That used to be the stuff of small luxury sedans and sports cars. But with its 2015 Mustang, Ford transformed its pony's front and rear suspensions and leap-frogged the Camaro in handling. Aw, Ford, you just went and made Chevy mad. One year later, and Camaro has answered with a steed ... built on a small luxury sedan chassis. The same Alpha platform used by the sensational, best-in-class Cadillac ATS carving knife. By Turn 2 at Belle Isle, I knew the Gen-6 Camaro was a different animal."

-- Henry Payne, The Detroit News

"Leaner, lighter, faster, tighter -- whether or not you can tell from the pictures, the Chevrolet Camaro, Generation 6, lifts everything up a couple more pegs. It’s almost entirely new, and even before Chevy mentions a word about ZL1/Z28/1LE upgrades, the view from Ford HQ has to be formidable."

-- J.P. Vettraino, Autoweek

"One area where the Camaro hasn't been downsized is in stopping power. Four-piston Brembo brakes are available across the lineup, standard on the SS, and 18-inch Goodyear Eagle Sports are the base tires ... It's not short on glitz, either. The Camaro now has ambient lighting that can be linked to drive modes. There’s even a theatrical “car show” mode that cycles randomly through the entire color spectrum when the Camaro is parked."

-- Marty Padgett, Motor Authority

"More than 300 pounds lighter than the 2015 V6 Camaro, and with a new V6 that delivers more horsepower and torque, the 2016 Camaro lapped faster and easier than the car it replaces. It promises to surprise Mustang and Challenger owners when it goes on sale in the fourth quarter, giving Chevy a strong new performance model."

-- Mark Phelan, Detroit Free Press

"The four-seat interior retains a dual-binnacle design, although the buttons and assorted brightwork appear more polished than the chintzy controls in the outgoing model. Chevrolet promises better-quality materials throughout; based on the current Camaro, that seems nearly unavoidable. There are two eight-inch color screens: one providing key driving information in the instrument cluster, while the other serves as the interface for the latest MyLink infotainment system. The manual emergency brake is replaced by a more space-efficient electronic parking brake. But the dash vents got pushed way low on the console. An LED ambient light system offers 24 different colors, reminding of personalization that Mustang has offered in recent years."

-- Jeff Bartlett, Consumer Reports

"It's interesting that GM chose to debut the Camaro on the warped surfaces of the ride-and-handling loop rather than, say, on the nearby Lutzring road course. What they're saying is that thing is going to work in the real world (they hope). I can now attest that no Camaro ever soaked up a mid-corner bump like this one does -- an impression cemented by a back-to-back drive with the 2015 model. The outgoing car didn't feel thoroughly discombobulated, mind you, but the new one was just that much more graceful. (Yes, a Camaro. Graceful.) On the big hits, the 2016's suspension wasn't visiting the limits of its bump stops like the 2015 model did, and diabolical chatter bumps didn't send it skittering toward the shoulder. Also, that exhaust cutout sounds nice. The 3.6-liter V6 tends to be vocal anyway, so you may as well uncork it."

-- Ezra Dyer, Popular Mechanics

"Small, powerful four-cylinders are the future in pony cars and other sporty cars. Ford reintroduced one to its Mustang lineup with the current generation model in 2014, and four-cylinder turbo motors also power sport sedans such as the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. That gives the Camaro team at General Motors the confidence that its new 2.0 liter engine -- a modified version of what goes into a small Cadillac sports sedan -- will be popular ... The new styling features traditional Camaro design language, including the grille and headlight aperture that stretches across the entire width of the car. The smaller car gives the impression of a wider, more athletic stance, enhanced by a long snout, low roofline and short rear deck. The new architecture gave GM engineers the opportunity to address one of the criticisms of the current model -- it is a tad bloated."

-- Jerry Hirsch, Los Angeles Times

MagmaRed370z · 05-20-2015, 11:11 AM

Im with everybody here. Its growing on me every time I look at it (mostly the interior).

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I think, styling wise we were all looking for radical changes... Like somehow, the proportions of the camoflauged mule were supposed to radically change. I guess we were hoping for camo moldings fooling us on the shape. But when the Mustang came out... I felt disappointed too. It took me a visit to the Dallas auto show to see how nicely crafted the Mustang is... I think the Mustang is leagues nicer looking than the last gen. Street performance doesn't disappoint and quality is there... Theres a couple of cheap plasticky areas to the mustang interior that I'm surprised over considering how high it can get up in price. But when loaded out. You'll notice the bigger ticket items over the plastic. That said, Mustang interior quality improved in materials but is closer to the revised 2012+ mustang in styling while Camaro went radically different with minor hints to the last gen interior. Lighting and seats seem more aggressive and the Camaro stance looks meaner. While the Camaro grille and the Malibu share some styling hints. It's not plagued with the fusion coupe stigma of theMustang. Those will be some brownie points for the Camaro in terms of sales. The camaro rear seems to need more drama though considering the amount of real estate back there.. That said, it seems how nice the Camaro looks will be strongly color dependent. Not every color looks all that, such as the electric blue Camaro... It's not a great color at least from pictures. I can't say the Mustang has a bad color to it. Every color brilliantly matches the Mustangs lines and curves. The mustang is nice enough for Mustang die hards to keep choosing it next year. But I think this camaro will hit 6 figure sales first year out. Jordo! likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 05-19-2015 at 03:45 PM.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The widy body kit and racing stripe look murderous. I'm officially in love!! TerribleONE likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 05-19-2015 at 10:21 PM.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...CEpPVhWb_Z2Ftg What people are saying about 2016 Chevy Camaro PHOTO GALLERY: 2016 Chevrolet Camaro PHOTO GALLERY >> Comment on this article 13 Comments Print this article Print Reprint Reprints Send a letter Respond Email Article Share on FacebookShare on LinkedInShare on Twitter Related Stories Chevrolet keeps its pocket rocket plans tucked away Revamped Camaro gains power, agility to battle Mustang Next-gen Camaro loses 200 pounds, gains turbo-4 base engine Camaro vs. Mustang: Who has the edge? Future Product Pipeline Click here to access Automotive News' Future Product Pipeline, the latest information on redesigned, refreshed, and new products coming to the U.S. Automotive News May 19, 2015 - 11:30 am ET -- UPDATED: 5/20/15 9:43 am ET Chevrolet, on the heels of the redesigned Ford Mustang, is bringing out a reskinned and re-engineered Camaro sports car for 2016, raising the ante in Detroit's pony car battle. Here's a look at what some journalists and analysts have to say about the latest Camaro. "The new seating position is excellent, and the new lower dashboard helps with outward forward visibility. But the Camaro still makes you feel like you're sitting in a bunker, looking out of a gun slit. Ride and handling are outstanding, with the suspension able to soak up track imperfections with ease, while not disturbing either the steering or stability. The brakes feel much stronger as well. The 2015 model's brakes felt squishy and overworked after several laps with journalists at the wheel, but the 2016 model exhibited no fade or softness in the pedal." -- Aaron Bragman, cars.com "The Camaro rides on a platform that is significantly lighter than the one used before. You immediately feel this in every aspect of the new car's dynamics, whether you're punching the gas on a straightaway, or braking as hard as you can for a 90-degree corner. This is a smoother, more linear-feeling Camaro, one that doesn't have the heft of the previous model -- and is all the better for it." -- Nick Kurczewski, New York Daily News "Welcome to Golden Era II of the muscle car where Chevy, Ford, and Dodge are in a dog -- er, pony -- fight for segment supremacy not unlike the Big Three pickup wars. But where Dodge's ferocious, new, 707-horsepower Challenger Hellcat is the undisputed king of brawn, the Camaro and Mustang are exploring new frontiers for muscle car handling. Frontiers like race tracks -- traditionally venues reserved for introducing track-tuned, alphanumeric-badged beasts like a Z28 or GT500, not a base Camaro ... These aren't your grand-dad's '60s Dream Cruisers that sprinted like stallions from a stoplight but wallowed like pigs through the twisties. Handling? That used to be the stuff of small luxury sedans and sports cars. But with its 2015 Mustang, Ford transformed its pony's front and rear suspensions and leap-frogged the Camaro in handling. Aw, Ford, you just went and made Chevy mad. One year later, and Camaro has answered with a steed ... built on a small luxury sedan chassis. The same Alpha platform used by the sensational, best-in-class Cadillac ATS carving knife. By Turn 2 at Belle Isle, I knew the Gen-6 Camaro was a different animal." -- Henry Payne, The Detroit News "Leaner, lighter, faster, tighter -- whether or not you can tell from the pictures, the Chevrolet Camaro, Generation 6, lifts everything up a couple more pegs. It’s almost entirely new, and even before Chevy mentions a word about ZL1/Z28/1LE upgrades, the view from Ford HQ has to be formidable." -- J.P. Vettraino, Autoweek "One area where the Camaro hasn't been downsized is in stopping power. Four-piston Brembo brakes are available across the lineup, standard on the SS, and 18-inch Goodyear Eagle Sports are the base tires ... It's not short on glitz, either. The Camaro now has ambient lighting that can be linked to drive modes. There’s even a theatrical “car show” mode that cycles randomly through the entire color spectrum when the Camaro is parked." -- Marty Padgett, Motor Authority "More than 300 pounds lighter than the 2015 V6 Camaro, and with a new V6 that delivers more horsepower and torque, the 2016 Camaro lapped faster and easier than the car it replaces. It promises to surprise Mustang and Challenger owners when it goes on sale in the fourth quarter, giving Chevy a strong new performance model." -- Mark Phelan, Detroit Free Press "The four-seat interior retains a dual-binnacle design, although the buttons and assorted brightwork appear more polished than the chintzy controls in the outgoing model. Chevrolet promises better-quality materials throughout; based on the current Camaro, that seems nearly unavoidable. There are two eight-inch color screens: one providing key driving information in the instrument cluster, while the other serves as the interface for the latest MyLink infotainment system. The manual emergency brake is replaced by a more space-efficient electronic parking brake. But the dash vents got pushed way low on the console. An LED ambient light system offers 24 different colors, reminding of personalization that Mustang has offered in recent years." -- Jeff Bartlett, Consumer Reports "It's interesting that GM chose to debut the Camaro on the warped surfaces of the ride-and-handling loop rather than, say, on the nearby Lutzring road course. What they're saying is that thing is going to work in the real world (they hope). I can now attest that no Camaro ever soaked up a mid-corner bump like this one does -- an impression cemented by a back-to-back drive with the 2015 model. The outgoing car didn't feel thoroughly discombobulated, mind you, but the new one was just that much more graceful. (Yes, a Camaro. Graceful.) On the big hits, the 2016's suspension wasn't visiting the limits of its bump stops like the 2015 model did, and diabolical chatter bumps didn't send it skittering toward the shoulder. Also, that exhaust cutout sounds nice. The 3.6-liter V6 tends to be vocal anyway, so you may as well uncork it." -- Ezra Dyer, Popular Mechanics "Small, powerful four-cylinders are the future in pony cars and other sporty cars. Ford reintroduced one to its Mustang lineup with the current generation model in 2014, and four-cylinder turbo motors also power sport sedans such as the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. That gives the Camaro team at General Motors the confidence that its new 2.0 liter engine -- a modified version of what goes into a small Cadillac sports sedan -- will be popular ... The new styling features traditional Camaro design language, including the grille and headlight aperture that stretches across the entire width of the car. The smaller car gives the impression of a wider, more athletic stance, enhanced by a long snout, low roofline and short rear deck. The new architecture gave GM engineers the opportunity to address one of the criticisms of the current model -- it is a tad bloated." -- Jerry Hirsch, Los Angeles Times __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 05-20-2015 at 11:13 AM.

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MagmaRed370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: USA Posts: 1,468 Drives: 14' 370z Sport Magma Rep Power: 13	Im with everybody here. Its growing on me every time I look at it (mostly the interior). UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

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