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Old 06-15-2014, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just return the oem cats! Problem solved!

If you don't have it check the for sale section of the forum you will be lucky,one might sell it for just 50 bucks+ can of beers!
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Duno if we can still do it, but if you sell a car in California "AS IS" then there is nothing needed at all. No smog, no windshield, nothing. It's a hunk of steel. A good idea to sell this way to avoid liabilities for the tiniest thing.
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This isn't a private sale. This was a trade in with the dealer.


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same principles still apply, the dealer is still technically buying the car from you
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One would assume the dealer would be the smarter one here and know the car better than anyone. I say they shoulda checked it. But I'm not on the jury.
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Again, in the dealers eyes they "just want to make a deal".


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shouldnt it be obvious that the car has Test pipes? it's noticeably louder than stock...
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I don't see this having a happy ending for your friend. Even if he wins the dealership case*, whoever is in charge of enforcing the law that Z_ealot quoted is likely to take him back to court.

* Personally, I think it's the dealer's fault for not checking before delivery, but I'm not a judge.
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I don't see this having a happy ending for your friend. Even if he wins the dealership case*, whoever is in charge of enforcing the law that Z_ealot quoted is likely to take him back to court.

* Personally, I think it's the dealer's fault for not checking before delivery, but I'm not a judge.
I'm guessing, but I bet they rushed the deal through. I've trade cars at dealerships on a weeknight after scheduled closing and wondered if dealership even checked to see if the car had wheels.

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I don't see this having a happy ending for your friend. Even if he wins the dealership case*, whoever is in charge of enforcing the law that Z_ealot quoted is likely to take him back to court.

* Personally, I think it's the dealer's fault for not checking before delivery, but I'm not a judge.

on the other hand though, seeing as it's not even legal to buy a car without the emissions controls in place, the dealer themselves can get in big trouble, which is probably why they are going after his friend since they may have already incurred a fine for buying the car in the first place
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on the other hand though, seeing as it's not even legal to buy a car without the emissions controls in place, the dealer themselves can get in big trouble, which is probably why they are going after his friend since they may have already incurred a fine for buying the car in the first place
I don't think it is illegal to buy, but rather to sell. It may be that the law is asymmetric with respect to sellers and buyers.
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I don't think it is illegal to buy, but rather to sell. It may be that the law is asymmetric with respect to sellers and buyers.
true, i guess we shall see how it plays out though...haven't heard from the OP in a while that's for sure
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I've been reading all the post and asked James a couple questions about it this morning at the gym.

-He said the car had custom rims and they didn't even notice - he received a call a couple days later and they asked if he had the stock wheels

-he bought the Vet and had to pay $2500 over sticker, he didn't even have the Z there with him when he signed the papers and drove the car home. He had to turn it in the next morning, they were in his wife's car and they stopped to look at it.

- dealer called him about the cats about a month later and he went there with his wife and offered to 1. Return the vet. 2. Buy the Z back 3. Take the car back to shop and return it to stock and have it back same day.

THEY CHOSE OPTION 4: TOld him only Chevy mechanic could
Do it now and it would cost $$$$ and he needed to pay half.

He is retired military like me and the military attorney told him they are just trying to screw him. They are submitting a response now.

According to Texas law all he has to verify was the mileage, which he did.

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I've been reading all the post and asked James a couple questions about it this morning at the gym.

-He said the car had custom rims and they didn't even notice - he received a call a couple days later and they asked if he had the stock wheels

-he bought the Vet and had to pay $2500 over sticker, he didn't even have the Z there with him when he signed the papers and drove the car home. He had to turn it in the next morning, they were in his wife's car and they stopped to look at it.

- dealer called him about the cats about a month later and he went there with his wife and offered to 1. Return the vet. 2. Buy the Z back 3. Take the car back to shop and return it to stock and have it back same day.

THEY CHOSE OPTION 4: TOld him only Chevy mechanic could
Do it now and it would cost $$$$ and he needed to pay half.

He is retired military like me and the military attorney told him they are just trying to screw him. They are submitting a response now.

According to Texas law all he has to verify was the mileage, which he did.

Some dealers are cool and some are POS
the 3rd option should have been what was done before he even signed paperwork and the texas state law on selling a vehicle (which is technically what he did when the dealership effectively bought it from him) is in the link i already provided in a previous post which as said before, states that you can not sell a vehicle without emissions equipment in place. i'm not a lawyer or an attorney, but that part of that website seemed pretty cut and clear to me at least, but then again there could be other loopholes that your friends attorney could exploit that i'm not aware of. all i know is that bad choices were made on both the dealers and your friends part and we will see how it turns out i guess.
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the 3rd option should have been what was done before he even signed paperwork and the texas state law on selling a vehicle (which is technically what he did when the dealership effectively bought it from him) is in the link i already provided in a previous post which as said before, states that you can not sell a vehicle without emissions equipment in place. i'm not a lawyer or an attorney, but that part of that website seemed pretty cut and clear to me at least, but then again there could be other loopholes that your friends attorney could exploit that i'm not aware of. all i know is that bad choices were made on both the dealers and your friends part and we will see how it turns out i guess.
Or the attorney is just ****. me and my parent have had 3 attorneys. there are shitty ones out there that know jackshit.
second one.
a case that had been going on for 5 years.

we get the third one

a month later we won

ofcourse he is a brussels one who knows aalll the big shots of judges and **** so he can get stuff done. plus he is a customer of ours

friend was 60 kilometers over the speed limit. he used our attorney. 160 euro fine and 3 classes of "driving safety"

normally he should of lost his driving license for atleast half a year with a fine up to 4000 euro.

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