BMW M4 or Lexus RCF?

Hotrodz · 08-27-2014, 08:51 PM

Never old, just mature and working on my best 12 year old!

b15 · 08-27-2014, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i still cant get over the fact that the IS only comes with AT.. and manually shifting AT on a normal straight road during normal driving seems stupid to me. yet let the car shift on its own.. that's boring. at least to me.

Get it already!!

Have you test driven it yet? Take it out for a extended drive and see how you feel after.

kenchan · 08-28-2014, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

Get it already!!

Have you test driven it yet? Take it out for a extended drive and see how you feel after.

haha, no, haven't test driven one yet, i did sit in one a couple of weeks back. i liked the car. but im worried im not going to like it after a few months. i just like to be engaged to driving while im driving. lexus and AT doesnt offer me that.. i dont think.

b15 · 08-28-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

haha, no, haven't test driven one yet, i did sit in one a couple of weeks back. i liked the car. but im worried im not going to like it after a few months. i just like to be engaged to driving while im driving. lexus and AT doesnt offer me that.. i dont think.

Won't know until you try! I think you'll like it. Let us know what you think after some drive time.

kenchan · 08-28-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

Won't know until you try! I think you'll like it. Let us know what you think after some drive time.

yah, like i mentioned a few times, the problem is i will most-likely like it
the first couple of weeks, maybe a few months. but then things will probably
fade away...

b15 · 08-28-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, like i mentioned a few times, the problem is i will most-likely like it
the first couple of weeks, maybe a few months. but then things will probably
fade away...

True. I guess from my viewpoint, if you like driving a FWD MT Fit, I think a 300+ hp AWD luxury sport sedan won't 'bore' you nearly as much as I think you're worried about, despite being an AT. You'll have all that power on tap. But again, I prefer AT cars for daily commutes. What else was on your list?

kenchan · 08-28-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

True. I guess from my viewpoint, if you like driving a FWD MT Fit, I think a 300+ hp AWD luxury sport sedan won't 'bore' you nearly as much as I think you're worried about, despite being an AT. You'll have all that power on tap. But again, I prefer AT cars for daily commutes. What else was on your list?

no the exact opposite. the fit is slow. that means it keeps me on my toes
because it's entirely my clutch/throttle/gear input that determines how fast the
thing goes. i mess up even a little bit, the impact is huge...i wont be
able to stick a pass.

on a AT car with power, you just step on it... sure that might be fun early
on, but im afraid it will bore me later. no input. just step on gas.

im in no way comparing a fit to the is350. i got the fit as my winter
beater/grocery getter that the dumbarse general public can ding and hit and
i could careless about.

i bought the thing new cash with my allowance.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-29-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

no the exact opposite. the fit is slow. that means it keeps me on my toes
because it's entirely my clutch/throttle/gear input that determines how fast the
thing goes. i mess up even a little bit, the impact is huge...i wont be
able to stick a pass.

on a AT car with power, you just step on it... sure that might be fun early
on, but im afraid it will bore me later. no input. just step on gas.

im in no way comparing a fit to the is350. i got the fit as my winter
beater/grocery getter that the dumbarse general public can ding and hit and
i could careless about.

i bought the thing new cash with my allowance.

Not the case in MANUAL MODE. You still have to manually shift on time and in the right gear. If you shift too soon? Not enough power. Too late? Not enough linear tirque for a good performance duration. ManUal mode works purely as a manual without a clutch. You're talking like there's power on tap once in MANUAL mode. Not exactly buddy.

kenchan · 08-29-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Not the case in MANUAL MODE. You still have to manually shift on time and in the right gear. If you shift too soon? Not enough power. Too late? Not enough linear tirque for a good performance duration. ManUal mode works purely as a manual without a clutch. You're talking like there's power on tap once in MANUAL mode. Not exactly buddy.

if you cant shift manual mode correctly on a AT car you have reflex/coordination issues...

that is so stupid...

BlackZeda · 08-29-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Okay I will through this out there $hits and giggles...Cadillac CTS V.Cheaper faster 2 or 4 door and you can get a manual!

And it comes with a lifetime supply of Geritol!

BlackZeda · 08-29-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i still cant get over the fact that the IS only comes with AT.. and manually shifting AT on a normal straight road during normal driving seems stupid to me. yet let the car shift on its own.. that's boring. at least to me.

I agree...it would have to be insanely responsive and fantastically fun for me to consider it.

The biggest complaint I am hearing about the M3/4 is that the turbo doesn't sound like the NA V8 and they upped the by 100+ lb-ft. How absolutely horrible!

My complaint about the BMW 4 series is they have white as an option.

b15 · 08-29-2014, 05:33 PM

I saw the RCF in person today. Everything but the front end looks great. I hope Lexus tones it down. Other than that, I love the car!

Magic Bus · 08-29-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

I saw the RCF in person today. Everything but the front end looks great. I hope Lexus tones it down. Other than that, I love the car!

I agree about the looks, front end is a little too much. Where did you see it?

Kinda dissappointed it does not come with a manual trans as the head developer of the car did say the RCF was created for pure driving enjoyment. For many of us, pure driving enjoyment = manual trans.

Mt Tam I am · 08-29-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

I agree about the looks, front end is a little too much. Where did you see it?

Kinda dissappointed it does not come with a manual trans as the head developer of the car did say the RCF was created for pure driving enjoyment. For many of us, pure driving enjoyment = manual trans.

M4 to answer question but the new Z is where I'm headed. Z06 that is. But not until 2016 and I've paid off my building.

b15 · 08-29-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

I agree about the looks, front end is a little too much. Where did you see it?

Kinda dissappointed it does not come with a manual trans as the head developer of the car did say the RCF was created for pure driving enjoyment. For many of us, pure driving enjoyment = manual trans.

There's a Lexus Corporate office in the town where I get my hair cut. I was driving by and it caught my eye so I pulled into the lot to take a look.

I agree, it should have a manual, or a dct. Looks like they just carried over the 8spd auto from the ISF

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b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36572	I saw the RCF in person today. Everything but the front end looks great. I hope Lexus tones it down. Other than that, I love the car!