BMW M4 or Lexus RCF?

DLSTR · 06-04-2014, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Yes it will, the auto trans is a $2,900 option. Was on a BMW forum and one poster wrote that he does not like their turbo engines with a manual trans as there is occasional turbo lag when shifting gears (rpm's drop so turbo must spool up to speed again). While with their DCT there is no lag at all with gearshifts due to ECU and quickness of shifts.

Does that make sense about the manual lag?

BMW M4 Coupe - Model Overview - BMW North America

Twin turbo like the M235i im about to test. Minimal lag. I would not be too concerned overall. Drive and see what you think.

Magic Bus · 06-05-2014, 09:15 PM

DLSTR, Thanks.

Any thoughts forum, I believe the manual trans M4 will come with a SRM feature like the 370Z, would this eliminate any lag? Tried researching on a BMW forum and couldn't find an answer.

G37sHKS · 06-06-2014, 05:42 AM

RCF of course, Leave the M4 and the whole BMW generation for those who live beside the dealership

faceglide · 06-15-2014, 02:23 AM

DO you want a huge engine or turbocharged? They give a completely different drive and feel and you will never know which one you want more until driving them both.

They are both shaping out to be amazing cars, I personally am intrigued with the new closed deck straight 6 on the M4 and its possibility of being a modding dream(or nightmare..tuning).

If I was to leave them alone, the lexus would win for me. If I was single, I would default to BMW, because pussy magnet status symbol.

M4 with DCT and some boost uppage would likely score higher on relative $hit-your-pants-ometer.

Yeah, I would choose M4, but I would wait a model year at least and see if they(motor) crap out as hard as the rest of BMWs recent offerings. There is no wrong answer to your question my friend...unless Nissan has something amazing planned for the z35(highly unlikely), these are both amazing choices.

Magic Bus · 06-18-2014, 11:25 PM

DLSTR, Did you test drive the M235i?

wanker · 06-18-2014, 11:38 PM

The M4 but only a few years after its release. BMW's early M series releases always seem to have warranty issues until they get the bugs out.

edk370 · 06-19-2014, 12:54 AM

BMW M4, because I see lots of 428i's on the street already. They're very beautiful, low, and wide; their body is distinguishable from the current 3-series. + they're "2JZTT'd" and easy to make more power out of.

Lexus...naw. I'm not into the ricey styling albeit this RCF's got V8 power. It looks like an Accord coupe with a body kit imo. Japanese cars are losing it for me. Their styling is getting kinda rice now.

Magic Bus · 06-19-2014, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanker

The M4 but only a few years after its release. BMW's early M series releases always seem to have warranty issues until they get the bugs out.

Agreed, like most new models, a couple of years after initial release is a safer bet.

Magic Bus · 06-19-2014, 04:39 AM

edk370, I'm okay with the styling except for the front. Bigger negative to me would be the lack of a manual trans.

DLSTR · 06-19-2014, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus

DLSTR, Did you test drive the M235i?

Herr Magic,

We await the call!

Possibly this weekend!

edk370 · 06-19-2014, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus

edk370, I'm okay with the styling except for the front. Bigger negative to me would be the lack of a manual trans.

Front end's overall shape reminds me of the G37 coupe. That's dull and unoriginal imo. Plus, that grill reminds of me of those men's electric shavers. The styling is over the top for me. The car's profile looks like an Accord coupe....Nah. I'm gonna pass. The 370 is gorgeous, all the Japanese sports cars from the 90s with the exception of the Mitsu 3000GT are gorgeous...but Japanese sports car since 2000 are losing me. The styling is getting too gaudy imo.

Oh yeah, I like how hi po cars are losing the manuals. I think it's a sign of the times...hi po autos are faster than manuals....Out with the old and in with the new.

Magic Bus · 06-19-2014, 03:54 PM

edk, Haha I agree with your comment of the front grill looking like an electric shaver.

Regarding transmissions, I agree also. It's just that I'm an older guy and will give up a little bit of speed for the enjoyment of driving with 3 pedals.

Not looking to make a change or addition right now, so something else may come up in the next year or two. However if I were to go with one now, it would be the M4. It's a lot lighter in weight, as one of the reports that I just found, listed the RCF at a hefty 3,800+ lbs (not found on Lexus site, so not 100% sure this is fact).

DLSTR · 07-13-2014, 09:23 AM

Magic,

We have the M235i test on Tuesday. Weather should be great. Will pass data soon. Looking at the specs I wouldnt bother with the 435i. Its got less power weighs more etc. All reviews Ive read give the M235i the same performance as the outgoing M3. I think you might want to take a good look if our test is pleasing!

Cheers,

Dave

Super Werty · 07-13-2014, 10:31 AM

how much is the M4? The RCF is starting at $100,000

http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...ew_lexus_rc_f/

Tazicon · 07-13-2014, 11:32 AM

After the way I was treated at the Lexus dealership out here in Vegas I will never set foot in nor buy a Lexus. Never ever. "F**K" Lexus.

06-06-2014, 05:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	RCF of course, Leave the M4 and the whole BMW generation for those who live beside the dealership DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ G37 BUILD UNDER CONSTRUCTION

07-13-2014, 10:31 AM	#29 (permalink)
Super Werty Track Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: AZ Posts: 668 Drives: '13 Sport Rep Power: 13	how much is the M4? The RCF is starting at $100,000 http://www.motortrend.com/future/con...ew_lexus_rc_f/ __________________ The Build

07-13-2014, 11:32 AM	#30 (permalink)
Tazicon Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 773 Drives: German/British cars Rep Power: 14	After the way I was treated at the Lexus dealership out here in Vegas I will never set foot in nor buy a Lexus. Never ever. "F**K" Lexus. __________________ Porsche, it's a 2 syllable word

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06-05-2014, 09:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	DLSTR, Thanks. Any thoughts forum, I believe the manual trans M4 will come with a SRM feature like the 370Z, would this eliminate any lag? Tried researching on a BMW forum and couldn't find an answer.

06-15-2014, 02:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
faceglide Track Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: san jose Posts: 550 Drives: '12 370Z FI TT BkChr Rep Power: 38	DO you want a huge engine or turbocharged? They give a completely different drive and feel and you will never know which one you want more until driving them both. They are both shaping out to be amazing cars, I personally am intrigued with the new closed deck straight 6 on the M4 and its possibility of being a modding dream(or nightmare..tuning). If I was to leave them alone, the lexus would win for me. If I was single, I would default to BMW, because pussy magnet status symbol. M4 with DCT and some boost uppage would likely score higher on relative $hit-your-pants-ometer. Yeah, I would choose M4, but I would wait a model year at least and see if they(motor) crap out as hard as the rest of BMWs recent offerings. There is no wrong answer to your question my friend...unless Nissan has something amazing planned for the z35(highly unlikely), these are both amazing choices.

06-18-2014, 11:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	DLSTR, Did you test drive the M235i?

06-18-2014, 11:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
wanker Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 443 Drives: 2011 370Z S/T A7 Rep Power: 2901	The M4 but only a few years after its release. BMW's early M series releases always seem to have warranty issues until they get the bugs out.

06-19-2014, 12:54 AM	#22 (permalink)
edk370 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 296 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 13	BMW M4, because I see lots of 428i's on the street already. They're very beautiful, low, and wide; their body is distinguishable from the current 3-series. + they're "2JZTT'd" and easy to make more power out of. Lexus...naw. I'm not into the ricey styling albeit this RCF's got V8 power. It looks like an Accord coupe with a body kit imo. Japanese cars are losing it for me. Their styling is getting kinda rice now.

06-19-2014, 04:39 AM	#24 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	edk370, I'm okay with the styling except for the front. Bigger negative to me would be the lack of a manual trans.

06-19-2014, 03:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	edk, Haha I agree with your comment of the front grill looking like an electric shaver. Regarding transmissions, I agree also. It's just that I'm an older guy and will give up a little bit of speed for the enjoyment of driving with 3 pedals. Not looking to make a change or addition right now, so something else may come up in the next year or two. However if I were to go with one now, it would be the M4. It's a lot lighter in weight, as one of the reports that I just found, listed the RCF at a hefty 3,800+ lbs (not found on Lexus site, so not 100% sure this is fact).

07-13-2014, 09:23 AM	#28 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	Magic, We have the M235i test on Tuesday. Weather should be great. Will pass data soon. Looking at the specs I wouldnt bother with the 435i. Its got less power weighs more etc. All reviews Ive read give the M235i the same performance as the outgoing M3. I think you might want to take a good look if our test is pleasing! Cheers, Dave