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Originally Posted by kenchan i still cant get over the fact that the IS only comes with AT.. and manually shifting AT on a normal straight road during normal driving

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Old 08-29-2014, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i still cant get over the fact that the IS only comes with AT.. and manually shifting AT on a normal straight road during normal driving seems stupid to me. yet let the car shift on its own.. that's boring. at least to me.
I agree...it would have to be insanely responsive and fantastically fun for me to consider it.

The biggest complaint I am hearing about the M3/4 is that the turbo doesn't sound like the NA V8 and they upped the by 100+ lb-ft. How absolutely horrible!

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Okay I will through this out there $hits and giggles...Cadillac CTS V.Cheaper faster 2 or 4 door and you can get a manual!
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Okay I will through this out there $hits and giggles...Cadillac CTS V.Cheaper faster 2 or 4 door and you can get a manual!
Can't wait to see the ATS-V. It should be the better handler.
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I saw the RCF in person today. Everything but the front end looks great. I hope Lexus tones it down. Other than that, I love the car!
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I saw the RCF in person today. Everything but the front end looks great. I hope Lexus tones it down. Other than that, I love the car!
I agree about the looks, front end is a little too much. Where did you see it?

Kinda dissappointed it does not come with a manual trans as the head developer of the car did say the RCF was created for pure driving enjoyment. For many of us, pure driving enjoyment = manual trans.
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I agree about the looks, front end is a little too much. Where did you see it?

Kinda dissappointed it does not come with a manual trans as the head developer of the car did say the RCF was created for pure driving enjoyment. For many of us, pure driving enjoyment = manual trans.


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I agree about the looks, front end is a little too much. Where did you see it?

Kinda dissappointed it does not come with a manual trans as the head developer of the car did say the RCF was created for pure driving enjoyment. For many of us, pure driving enjoyment = manual trans.
There's a Lexus Corporate office in the town where I get my hair cut. I was driving by and it caught my eye so I pulled into the lot to take a look.

I agree, it should have a manual, or a dct. Looks like they just carried over the 8spd auto from the ISF
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I saw the RCF in person today. Everything but the front end looks great. I hope Lexus tones it down. Other than that, I love the car!
where did you see this?????? i must see it!!!
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where did you see this?????? i must see it!!!
It was in the lot of their corporate office in Naperville. Had manufacture tags on it. Not sure if it's still there, I'm sure it was some execs company car.
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M4. I'll be picking mine up next year. Timing it with the 2016 model year to get past those typical first year concerns and doing 2 weeks in Europe driving it around.

The RC-F is interesting, but like the IS-F, there isn't going to be much available for added performance. The aftermarket will be limited. It will have to sell at a discount to the M4 like the IS-F did to the M3 to have a chance of success.
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M4. I'll be picking mine up next year. Timing it with the 2016 model year to get past those typical first year concerns and doing 2 weeks in Europe driving it around.

The RC-F is interesting, but like the IS-F, there isn't going to be much available for added performance. The aftermarket will be limited. It will have to sell at a discount to the M4 like the IS-F did to the M3 to have a chance of success.
Wasnt the exhaust and bumper married on the ISF? I could be wrong but I remember hearing that somewhere...
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Car & Driver did a First Drive of the RC-F, below is their opinion of the car.

Lexus RC F Reviews - Lexus RC F Price, Photos, and Specs - CARandDRIVER
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