Nissan Corp. bullying American employees.

Jordo!

I dunno, man... the UAW doesn't have any skeletons in its collective closet worse than any auto manufacturer -- at worst, they're the lesser of the evils, and they certainly don't have the kind of wealth and influence that car company CEO's have.

I'm 100% for unionization and collective bargaining for employees, no matter what the shirt collar is. A lone worker has absolutely no leverage on his or her own.

Corporations are organizations and they are organized to ensure that profits go to the tippy-top, but historically very rarely allow any to even lightly trickle down without some collective effort from those who actually do the work.

Un-organized workers have fewer (or no) resources at their disposal to ensure a fair share of the profits from their work... lack of worker organization in the US has steadily eroded salaries for the past 30+ years, which is why CEO pay is stratospheric and everyone else's wages are stagnant.

I find it hard to believe that Nissan (or any large corporation) better represent the "good guys" here.

So, while your point is well taken -- it's pretty hard for me to not side with the UAW. There may be some genuine villainy within them, but it is historically always lesser in scope and magnitude than the companies they wrangle with.

BTW: Japan has strong unionization, but if a Japanese auto company opens a plant here, they simply don't support it. So, UAW does have a legitimate dog in this fight.

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Chuck33079

I couldn't disagree with you more on the specific points you made about the UAW, so I'll leave it at that.

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Employees with in-demand skills always have leverage. They don't need a union and in fact would be held back by one.

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SouthArk370Z

Good point but, given the vagaries of the job market and economy, one's in-demand status can change quickly. Granted, that alone shouldn't guide one's decision, but feces occurs and a good union can be a big help if for nothing else than finding training and a new job when your skills become obsolete.

And I don't see how a union would necessarily hold them back. I've seen plants where the company and the union co-operated for the good of all. Although it is an us-vs-them relationship all too often, it doesn't have to be.

I'm not particularly pro- or anti- union. They have their place but aren't appropriate for all situations. If you work for a good company, then you don't need a union. Not all people are so fortunate.

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RonRizz

It is also VERY common for companies (such as the one I work for) to own and operate both union AND open shop at the same time. simple legal loopholes to dance around. We split in 2005 from our parent company, and currently own 7 other Open shop outfits, and work with them hand in hand. There are occasional rough spots, of course, but mainly all moves along smoothly.
If I didn't like where I was working, for whatever reason, I would move on, Union, Open shop.....Whatever. My choice. Just like it is yours.
The men who work for me are highly skilled due to required apprenticeship training, and are extremely hard working. They deserve every penny they get.
The comment regarding a skilled in-demand employee having leverage in their workplace is partially true, but at the same time naïve. Walk into your bosses office, and ask for a cost of living raise (does anyone remember those??) Now run the same scenario with your boss with 35,000 of your brothers at your side............That's leverage.
I don't mean to come off as a book-pounding hardcore union guy, that's just not who I am, I have, and would work on both sides of the fence without any qualms. I just happen to like where I'm at right now.

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