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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 According to google, 400/290 on a dyno. For $200k+. It's a low 12 second car. They trap 117-120. Stock 2006 Ferrari F430 Spider 1/4 mile trap

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View Poll Results: Which car would you choose to drive?
Ferrari F430 F1 0 0%
Ferrari 430 Scuderia 1 1.89%
Ferrari 458 Italia 14 26.42%
Lamborghini Gallardo LP550 0 0%
Lamborghini Superleggera LP570 3 5.66%
Lamborghini Aventador LP700 16 30.19%
Porsche 997 Turbo S 3 5.66%
Porsche Cayman S 0 0%
Audi R8 V10 2 3.77%
Aston Martin Vantage S 0 0%
Nissan GTR 3 5.66%
Mercedes SLS AMG 1 1.89%
Mclaren MP4-12C 9 16.98%
Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 1 1.89%
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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According to google, 400/290 on a dyno. For $200k+. It's a low 12 second car. They trap 117-120. Stock 2006 Ferrari F430 Spider 1/4 mile trap speeds 0-60 - DragTimes.com 0-60 is a terrible measurement for cars. It's a traction contest. Look at trap speeds.

I get that you like the car, but you have to admit that, given the other options he could drive, the 430 is a dog.
I don't just "like the car". I drove it, back to back, with AWD and RWD Lambo's, over and over and over. I have also tracked examples of many of the other cars on the list, many times, and gave my thoughts on them in my first post in this thread.

The F430 is not a dog in either real-world driving, nor bench racing. It's actually rather awesome behind the wheel of those things.

There are a few on the list I have not driven that may be better choices, but I have not driven them, so I don't know. I commented on the cars I have driven and pointed out my lack of experience with the others.
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I don't just "like the car". I drove it, back to back, with AWD and RWD Lambo's, over and over and over. I have also tracked examples of many of the other cars on the list, many times, and gave my thoughts on them in my first post in this thread.

The F430 is not a dog in either real-world driving, nor bench racing. It's actually rather awesome behind the wheel of those things.

There are a few on the list I have not driven that may be better choices, but I have not driven them, so I don't know. I commented on the cars I have driven and pointed out my lack of experience with the others.
Well, maybe I got to drive one that was missing two spark plugs. You're talking to me like I've never been behind the wheel of one. I don't know how someone manages to look at that list and pick the 430 over the 458.

A 12.2@117 $200k car is a dog. That's not fast.

I'm sure it's a hoot to drive compared to a lot of cars. But if you're looking for a vehicle that you step out of and think "wow", the 430 isn't it. Maybe it was in 2006. But compared to the 458, GTR, McLaren, etc, it just falls short.
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Well, maybe I got to drive one that was missing two spark plugs. You're talking to me like I've never been behind the wheel of one. I don't know how someone manages to look at that list and pick the 430 over the 458.

A 12.2@117 $200k car is a dog. That's not fast.

I'm sure it's a hoot to drive compared to a lot of cars. But if you're looking for a vehicle that you step out of and think "wow", the 430 isn't it. Maybe it was in 2006. But compared to the 458, GTR, McLaren, etc, it just falls short.
There is so much more to a car than mashing a gas pedal. (Although the F430's loud pedal works just fine)

The F430 handles better than either the 560 or the 550.

It doesn't feel like your enemy at the limit, like the rear-engine 911's

It doesn't do most of the work for you like a GTR.

It connects you to the road better than any AMG I have driven.

And it doesn't have the e-diff issues the Cayman S has.

I have never driven a 458, or a McLaren

I was choosing it over the other cars I have actually driven and said so in my first post.
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There is so much more to a car than mashing a gas pedal. (Although the F430's loud pedal works just fine)

The F430 handles better than either the 560 or the 550.

It doesn't feel like your enemy at the limit, like the rear-engine 911's

It doesn't do most of the work for you like a GTR.

It connects you to the road better than any AMG I have driven.

And it doesn't have the e-diff issues the Cayman S has.

I have never driven a 458, or a McLaren

I was choosing it over the other cars I have actually driven and said so in my first post.
Yes, I never turned the steering wheel. At all. I just went in a straight line. You're getting caught up on feelings. Look at the numbers. It is a slower car than 2/3 of the list. If you're paying to drive something at an event like this, make it something worth driving. I did not feel the F430 was worth it. You did. That's great. Knowing what I know now, I'd rather have driven the other options. Pretty much any of them. You disagree. Fine.
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Yes, I never turned the steering wheel. At all. I just went in a straight line.
That's the numbers you keep using to define "fast"...straight line numbers on a page.

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I'm giving my opinion based on experience with many of the cars on the list.

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Look at the numbers. It is a slower car than 2/3 of the list.
Straight-line numbers again? An SS Camaro puts down better straight-line numbers than a lot of cars, yet I prefer a lot of cars you would consider "slower". (Using your straight-line metric)

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If you're paying to drive something at an event like this, make it something worth driving. I did not feel the F430 was worth it. You did. That's great. Knowing what I know now, I'd rather have driven the other options. Pretty much any of them.
We are both sharing our opinions based on what we "know".

I explained why I prefer the F430 over some of the other examples on the list.

You explained that you didn't like the F430. And that it's numbers are not worthy compared to other car's numbers.

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-Only compared to the cars I have actually tracked.

I can't dissagree on the others because I don't know anything about them beyond what I have read.
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That's the numbers you keep using to define "fast"...straight line numbers on a page.



I'm giving my opinion based on experience with many of the cars on the list.

Straight-line numbers again? An SS Camaro puts down better straight-line numbers than a lot of cars, yet I prefer a lot of cars you would consider "slower". (Using your straight-line metric)



We are both sharing our opinions based on what we "know".

I explained why I prefer the F430 over some of the other examples on the list.

You explained that you didn't like the F430. And that it's numbers are not worthy compared to other car's numbers.



-Only compared to the cars I have actually tracked.

I can't dissagree on the others because I don't know anything about them beyond what I have read.
Oh for ****'s sake, dude. We like different cars. Let it go.
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