Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2702299)

Well, maybe I got to drive one that was missing two spark plugs. :rofl2: You're talking to me like I've never been behind the wheel of one. I don't know how someone manages to look at that list and pick the 430 over the 458.

A 12.2@117 $200k car is a dog. That's not fast.

I'm sure it's a hoot to drive compared to a lot of cars. But if you're looking for a vehicle that you step out of and think "wow", the 430 isn't it. Maybe it was in 2006. But compared to the 458, GTR, McLaren, etc, it just falls short.

Originally Posted by Z1NONLY (Post 2702347)

There is so much more to a car than mashing a gas pedal. (Although the F430's loud pedal works just fine)

The F430 handles better than either the 560 or the 550.

It doesn't feel like your enemy at the limit, like the rear-engine 911's

It doesn't do most of the work for you like a GTR.

It connects you to the road better than any AMG I have driven.

And it doesn't have the e-diff issues the Cayman S has.

I have never driven a 458, or a McLaren

I was choosing it over the other cars I have actually driven and said so in my first post.

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2702357)

Yes, I never turned the steering wheel. At all. I just went in a straight line.

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456 (Post 2702408)

you missing out Porsche 918

Originally Posted by Z1NONLY (Post 2702466)

That's the numbers you keep using to define "fast"...straight line numbers on a page.



I'm giving my opinion based on experience with many of the cars on the list.

Straight-line numbers again? An SS Camaro puts down better straight-line numbers than a lot of cars, yet I prefer a lot of cars you would consider "slower". (Using your straight-line metric)



We are both sharing our opinions based on what we "know".

I explained why I prefer the F430 over some of the other examples on the list.

You explained that you didn't like the F430. And that it's numbers are not worthy compared to other car's numbers.



-Only compared to the cars I have actually tracked.

I can't dissagree on the others because I don't know anything about them beyond what I have read.

Originally Posted by ohohoh123456 (Post 2702408)

you missing out Porsche 918

Originally Posted by Neurosis (Post 2703995)

Yep, a cool car, but not one of the options...unless you can hook me up with a ride

Originally Posted by Bullit79 (Post 2726789)

Went there last year and drove the Gallardo and Vantage. I know most guys here would pass on the Vantage, but I did it to satisfy my inner James Bond :)

And honestly, I enjoyed driving the Vantage more than the Gallardo :eek: The Vantage was more forgiving. It felt like it took more work to drive the Gallardo properly which cut into the fun factor. I only did 5 laps though, so maybe I would've gotten a better feel for the Lambo with more laps. But I felt comfortable in the Vantage after the second lap.