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Mt Tam I am 01-03-2014 10:49 AM

KIA is not a name normally associated with high performance. Let's see how this one shakes out.

6MT 01-03-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 2635460)
KIA is not a name normally associated with high performance. Let's see how this one shakes out.

:iagree: ...ibtl

Drakonis GTR 01-03-2014 01:00 PM

I've noticed that the korean automakers were ditching the larger engines and going with turbos to make up the slack. OF course, I was told that Hyundai was buying their V6s from Mitsubishi, so I can understand if they would rather not have to buy when they could build.

My experience with rental Optimas and Sonatas tells me that they don't have the acceleration with the turbo I4s as they did with the V6s. So personally I am not a fan of the trend. There is no replacement for displacement.

Drakonis GTR 01-03-2014 01:03 PM

OF course, Kia has been experimenting with a sports car for several years now. Honestly, I'm surprised that it has taken them this long. But again, this is another concept, so we'll see if they actually go through with it, or just keep making econo-cars.

Rockhound 01-03-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2635425)
However, I'll be dead before KIA can be talked about in the same breath as Nissan, Toyota or Honda. I am sure that day will come, but I won't be here to care.

In some regards, they already are talked about "in the same breath", it's not like we're talking about the original Hyundai Excel. Right now they're borrowing a page or two from the playbook the Japanese Big 3 used in the 80s/90s to gain market share: offer "more" (that's subjective) for less, and include a lengthy warranty.

I've never owned a Kia, and likely won't anytime soon, but why the ire toward them?

As a Japanese car enthusiast I'm glad the Korean competition is there to keep the Big 3 from getting complacent, as they had been over the last decade (especially Toyota).

Firebase99 01-03-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound (Post 2635793)
In some regards, they already are talked about "in the same breath", it's not like we're talking about the original Hyundai Excel. Right now they're borrowing a page or two from the playbook the Japanese Big 3 used in the 80s/90s to gain market share: offer "more" (that's subjective) for less, and include a lengthy warranty.

I've never owned a Kia, and likely won't anytime soon, but why the ire toward them?

As a Japanese car enthusiast I'm glad the Korean competition is there to keep the Big 3 from getting complacent, as they had been over the last decade (especially Toyota).

This^^ Competition is a very good thing.

Eclipz 01-03-2014 04:50 PM

Soon the Korean cars will be on top of the food chain.

shadoquad 01-03-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound (Post 2635793)
In some regards, they already are talked about "in the same breath", it's not like we're talking about the original Hyundai Excel. Right now they're borrowing a page or two from the playbook the Japanese Big 3 used in the 80s/90s to gain market share: offer "more" (that's subjective) for less, and include a lengthy warranty.

I've never owned a Kia, and likely won't anytime soon, but why the ire toward them?

As a Japanese car enthusiast I'm glad the Korean competition is there to keep the Big 3 from getting complacent, as they had been over the last decade (especially Toyota).

well said. Can't wait to see what Kia's boffins can do. May not be a huge success, but it's a good sign when a company is thinking forward like this.

Justice97 01-03-2014 06:22 PM

http://carrevsdaily.com/wp-content/u...er-Coupe-2.jpg
OK never mind it's ugly.

If this is the side view?

Cell 01-03-2014 10:51 PM

It's nice to see more sports cars coming out for bigger competition.

What I would like to see is more competition against the EVO/STI and maybe even a car company coming out with something to compete against the GTR at a cheaper price.

UNKNOWN_370 01-04-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakonis GTR (Post 2635685)
I've noticed that the korean automakers were ditching the larger engines and going with turbos to make up the slack. OF course, I was told that Hyundai was buying their V6s from Mitsubishi, so I can understand if they would rather not have to buy when they could build.

My experience with rental Optimas and Sonatas tells me that they don't have the acceleration with the turbo I4s as they did with the V6s. So personally I am not a fan of the trend. There is no replacement for displacement.



I'm guessing GTR are just letters to you. Lol

preR35 01-12-2014 06:30 PM

The "but it's a Kia" comments and "no replacement for displacement" comments are kinda ignorant IMO. I may have agreed with you in 1994 ;-)

Cell 01-12-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by preR35 (Post 2648129)
The "but it's a Kia" comments and "no replacement for displacement" comments are kinda ignorant IMO. I may have agreed with you in 1994 ;-)

I agree to the first part but not the second.

There is no replacement for displacement.

This is why people go with bigger displacement to make bigger power. Look at some people that turbo their cars and also modified their engines to increase the displacement.

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preR35 01-12-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 2648303)
I agree to the first part but not the second.

There is no replacement for displacement.

This is why people go with bigger displacement to make bigger power. Look at some people that turbo their cars and also modified their engines to increase the displacement.

Look at some people with large displacement engines that also add forced induction.

Lol, just being a smartass.

Anyway, my argument is that I wouldn't write-off a new sports car
just because it uses a turbo-4. I imagine a BRZ-type car with FI and better appointments/quality would be a pleasure to own. :cheers:

Vertigo 01-13-2014 03:20 PM

Looks pretty nice to me.


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