2015 Mustang

Pitch · 12-13-2013, 09:39 PM

Gotcha.

I'd take a turbo 6 with 350+ over a v8 anyday

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Lug · 12-14-2013, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NS370Z

Damn, I must admit the 2015 is looking better all the time. Sounds promising in the driving dynamics department too. Interior, although looks much improved still is not to my liking but if all the other pieces are great it's something I could live with. The tacky steering wheel is the biggest detractor. If this thing makes 430+HP with a good drive feel and a weight reduction this could be a serious consideration although I'm hesitant of any first year of a new model.

Come on Nissan, you know you need a V8 or some kind of twin turbo 3L or you're sitting on the sidelines getting passed by minivans. Piss on all that eco crap in a sports car, well that is unless it makes big power.

It should make 430 easy. It's set up is very similar to the Boss (currently at444 hp). Knowing Ford, a Direct Injection 5.0 will be the following year (block casting is already set up for it). All the weight reduction talk has suddenly dried up so I'm less hopeful on that front.

Pitch · 12-14-2013, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

It should make 430 easy. It's set up is very similar to the Boss (currently at444 hp). Knowing Ford, a Direct Injection 5.0 will be the following year (block casting is already set up for it). All the weight reduction talk has suddenly dried up so I'm less hopeful on that front.

I forsee it being less than boss numbers as not to make them upset. But waay detuned and able to do 480 or so with a tune and cai, maybe more(that's to the crank)

And yea...I might not be getting one of the first ones with all this talk of 2016 having DI.

And the weight loss talk is not dead. There's a 27 page discussion on that alone on mustang6g.com

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Lug · 12-14-2013, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitch

I forsee it being less than boss numbers as not to make them upset. But waay detuned and able to do 480 or so with a tune and cai, maybe more(that's to the crank)

And yea...I might not be getting one of the first ones with all this talk of 2016 having DI.

And the weight loss talk is not dead. There's a 27 page discussion on that alone on mustang6g.com

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Would love it if they drop significant weight but I was referring to Ford press releases specifically, not general speculation. To get to the 3200 lbs everyone is guessing at would require a LOT of expensive weight saving materials. Can it be done? ....sure. Can it be done at the price point where the 'stang sits? ...much harder proposition. You're talking Vette weight here with an additional back seat. Like I said, would love it but expect it to go more like the Z weight loss.....had a little bit but nothing like everyone was hoping for. Even my Focus weighs more than that.

Pitch · 12-14-2013, 02:54 AM

Vettes way 3400...

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m4a1mustang · 12-14-2013, 09:33 AM

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Would love it if they drop significant weight but I was referring to Ford press releases specifically, not general speculation. To get to the 3200 lbs everyone is guessing at would require a LOT of expensive weight saving materials. Can it be done? ....sure. Can it be done at the price point where the 'stang sits? ...much harder proposition. You're talking Vette weight here with an additional back seat. Like I said, would love it but expect it to go more like the Z weight loss.....had a little bit but nothing like everyone was hoping for. Even my Focus weighs more than that.

I think 3200s is going to be possible for the Ecoboost model which will undoubtedly be the lightest and better balanced of the bunch. I think the V8 will be a winner if it can close in on the better part of 3400lbs.

A lot of people are concerned about the weight savings... where could you pull weight off the S197 chassis to drop the required 200+ lbs? They are forgetting that the S550 is an entirely new chassis developed for this car. There's over a decade's gap of technology between the two platforms. The only thing in common with the S197 is the wheel base. Everything else is brand new.

Lug · 12-15-2013, 12:28 PM

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Vettes way 3400...

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Wow, you are correct. I'd heard all about weight savings in the Aluminum frame, etc. Seems it still went up anyway.

Lug · 12-15-2013, 12:30 PM

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I think 3200s is going to be possible for the Ecoboost model which will undoubtedly be the lightest and better balanced of the bunch. I think the V8 will be a winner if it can close in on the better part of 3400lbs.

A lot of people are concerned about the weight savings... where could you pull weight off the S197 chassis to drop the required 200+ lbs? They are forgetting that the S550 is an entirely new chassis developed for this car. There's over a decade's gap of technology between the two platforms. The only thing in common with the S197 is the wheel base. Everything else is brand new.

My bad, I was talking about 3200 for the GT some were touting. Still don't see how they can make that without going with a lot more expensive materials or a much smaller frame. I guess time will tell.

Pitch · 12-15-2013, 02:45 PM

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Wow, you are correct. I'd heard all about weight savings in the Aluminum frame, etc. Seems it still went up anyway.

It's like 3290 but with the z51 and some other options it's 3440

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Z-Girl 12 · 12-15-2013, 03:15 PM

I really really like it...

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-17-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch

Hmmm

I just learned about the twin turbo 3.6l goin in the new ats...

That would win me over in a heartbeat if not more than 45k starting

I like the sound v6's make as well as turbos. Om nom nom

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The 2.0t/performance is $45k. I expect if caddy goes thru with the ATS-V 3.6TT? I expect it to be at least $60k.

Pitch · 12-17-2013, 08:37 PM

that's what I heard sokewhere, but I thought they said 60 k for the blown v8. Was hoping less for the tt but not 15k

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Rooster89 · 12-24-2013, 09:37 PM

I really do like the 15 stang. I had been waiting for a while and hoping they went with a more modern look. I really really like the GT version. The base version is bland. but that is the way it should be.

gsxr750 · 12-25-2013, 06:52 PM

Finally a Mustang that actually looks goods.

It looks more like a modern version of the early 2000 mustang gt style, the old retro look can only last so long before it becomes dated.

mjd77 · 12-26-2013, 10:07 PM

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I really do like the 15 stang. I had been waiting for a while and hoping they went with a more modern look. I really really like the GT version. The base version is bland. but that is the way it should be.

Don't they look exactly the same except for the badging and wheel size?

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