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TheWeatherman 08-02-2009 05:39 PM

Woah! Ford Taurus SHO!!??
 
0-60 5.2 and 1/4 mile in 13.7 @103 MPH? That's with an automatic. Pulling a .87g on the skidpad? Kudos Ford. Kudos. I'm really proud that we have an American company stepping up to the plate. I have sat in new Fords and have to say they are putting together a good-quality vehicle. I can't believe I'm recommending Fords and Lincolns to my friends now. (As an option.) That says a hell of a lot in my book.

Alexus 08-02-2009 05:54 PM

I would have to concur... now, if only they could offer a twin-turbo Mustang with Ford's new PowerShift DSG. Ford is definitely heading in the right direction, but in all honesty I won't be buying a Taurus any time soon.

TheWeatherman 08-02-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 135047)
I would have to concur... now, if only they could offer a twin-turbo Mustang with Ford's new PowerShift DSG. Ford is definitely heading in the right direction, but in all honesty I won't be buying a Taurus any time soon.


You're right about the Taurus thing, but I just imagine someone looking for high-performance, with family who wants a sedan, for under $40,000. That's a damn good deal with good quality. Thanks for your response, Alex. I'm not the only car geek seeing an American company doing something right for a change. Imagine telling a "pure" Mustang owner you are putting a TT V-6 in their car. Ufff. Though Alex, you're right... It's the better engine option versus the 4.6 V-8. You'd think it would clearly be faster, right? Oh, with better gas mileage!

frost 08-02-2009 06:43 PM

Another post in the sho:
http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...rd-taurus.html

dad 08-02-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 135032)
0-60 5.2 and 1/4 mile in 13.7 @103 MPH? That's with an automatic. Pulling a .87g on the skidpad? Kudos Ford. Kudos. I'm really proud that we have an American company stepping up to the plate. I have sat in new Fords and have to say they are putting together a good-quality vehicle. I can't believe I'm recommending Fords and Lincolns to my friends now. (As an option.) That says a hell of a lot in my book.

And, it's front wheel drive.

TheWeatherman 08-02-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 135121)

Yeah, sorry about a new thread, but I just recieved my new Motor Trend and couldn't believe it. It wasn't about bashing Ford, it was about respecting them. I now have two friends who just bought F-150 Platinums, and can't believe how well they are built. I also sat and drove in the Flex and the new Fusion. Equal quaility interiors to my Infiniti and really well-engineered. This is not a bashing thread. It's a guy who drives new Infinitis and Nissans, and have to say Ford is doing something right.

Oh, the Infiniti is an '09 FX35 and my sis has an '08 EX35. These cars are put together well. My new Z is close, but not quite.

And that Microsoft SYNC system... Makes my FX's system look like a Speak 'n Spell for those of you who know them.

m4a1mustang 08-02-2009 07:16 PM

Ford is heading in the right direction.

Alexus 08-02-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 135117)
You're right about the Taurus thing, but I just imagine someone looking for high-performance, with family who wants a sedan, for under $40,000. That's a damn good deal with good quality. Thanks for your response, Alex. I'm not the only car geek seeing an American company doing something right for a change. Imagine telling a "pure" Mustang owner you are putting a TT V-6 in their car. Ufff. Though Alex, you're right... It's the better engine option versus the 4.6 V-8. You'd think it would clearly be faster, right? Oh, with better gas mileage!

In all honesty even Hyundai can get more horsies out of a 4.6 V8, in the same price range as a Mustang GT, all that in a luxury sedan full of goodies. Imho it's all about stroke length... American V8s are notorious for very long stokes, which translates into an inefficient engine in terms of displacement and fuel economy. Whether the Mustang folks like it or not a twin-turbo GT 'stang is hardly a longshot; it's a damn reality.

m4a1mustang 08-02-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 135211)
In all honesty even Hyundai can get more horsies out of a 4.6 V8, in the same price range as a Mustang GT, all that in a luxury sedan full of goodies. Imho it's all about stroke length... American V8s are notorious for very long stokes, which translates into an inefficient engine in terms of displacement and fuel economy. Whether the Mustang folks like it or not a twin-turbo GT 'stang is hardly a longshot; it's a damn reality.

The thing everyone forgets about American V8s is that it's not about what the thing makes off the factory floor... it's about what it can make after the owner gets to playing with it.

A 300 hp 4.6L V8 in a GT can take a blower and handle 600 daily-driven horsepower with ease.

Alexus 08-02-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 135218)
The thing everyone forgets about American V8s is that it's not about what the thing makes off the factory floor... it's about what it can make after the owner gets to playing with it.

A 300 hp 4.6L V8 in a GT can take a blower and handle 600 daily-driven horsepower with ease.

Most people like to keep their warranties intact.

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 135139)
And, it's front wheel drive.

It's AWD.

m4a1mustang 08-02-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 135224)
Most people like to keep their warranties intact.

Most people who buy V8 Mustangs void the engine warranty in the first few months of ownership. :driving:

Alexus 08-02-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 135227)
Most people who buy V8 Mustangs void the engine warranty in the first few months of ownership. :driving:

:shakes head:

m4a1mustang 08-02-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 135229)
:shakes head:

What's the issue tissue?

Alexus 08-02-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 135231)
What's the issue tissue?

What you're basically trying to tell me is that Ford is too lazy to fine-tune these engines, so the customer has to invest an additional $10,000 in aftermarket parts to make it like it should be right out of the factory and in the same fel swoop void his warranty. Personally, that's why I think Ford is, or rather was, on the verge of bankruptcy.

TheWeatherman 08-02-2009 08:12 PM

My buddy swears by his modified Mustang. He said his stock motor can handle things that most other factory motors can't handle. Again, good for Ford. I'm buying their stock when they take a small dip. Again, that says a lot. These guys have something there. They are now built like tanks. They also made Land Rover what they are today. My parents have two supercharged models which are reliable and well-built.

m4a1mustang 08-02-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 135279)
What you're basically trying to tell me is that Ford is too lazy to fine-tune these engines, so the customer has to invest an additional $10,000 in aftermarket parts to make it like it should be right out of the factory and in the same fel swoop void his warranty. Personally, that's why I think Ford is, or rather was, on the verge of bankruptcy.

No, I'm not saying that at all. If you use that logic then Nissan is too lazy to fine-tune the VQ37HR because we can boost it and run 500hp or so reliably. You're saying that if you haven't tuned the engine in such a way that it's making the absolute maximum amount of power before it breaks then the factory is lazy.

Ford just puts a very, very solid engine in it's V8 Mustangs. They are tuned to make solid power and appeal to the masses while maintaining the strength to take on a lot more.

m4a1mustang 08-02-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 135290)
My buddy swears by his modified Mustang. He said his stock motor can handle things that most other factory motors can't handle. Again, good for Ford. I'm buying their stock when they take a small dip. Again, that says a lot. These guys have something there. They are now built like tanks. They also made Land Rover what they are today. My parents have two supercharged models which are reliable and well-built.

They are good cars and can take a lot of abuse. In the case of the 4.6L in the Mustangs... it can take it with ease. That's the reason Ford offers FRPP superchargers as an option, and backs them with the standard warranty.

We're about to see what their Eco-Boost turbo 4 and turbo 6's can take once more hit the market and some tuners get their hands on them.

TheWeatherman 08-02-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 135298)
They are good cars and can take a lot of abuse. In the case of the 4.6L in the Mustangs... it can take it with ease. That's the reason Ford offers FRPP superchargers as an option, and backs them with the standard warranty.

We're about to see what their Eco-Boost turbo 4 and turbo 6's can take once more hit the market and some tuners get their hands on them.

Steve, good for Ford. I wish them all the best. When I rode in my buddy's Mustang, it scared the you know what out of me. He laughed the whole way. I respect them. My brother's Jeeps and Jeep SRT8 also have gained my attention. I noticed his Jeeps are built way better than American companies of past. Ford though, has put it right into the materials of the car. Jeep is working on it. I hope they can do it too. His SRT8 Jeep owned my 370. Corners and acceleration. I laughed and was proud of his car. He loaned me his '09 Wrangler manual, and I loved it.

By the way, the SHO weighs almost 4,400 lbs. Oh my God. Wow. That's amazing! 4,361 to be exact.

Lug 08-03-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 135279)
What you're basically trying to tell me is that Ford is too lazy to fine-tune these engines, so the customer has to invest an additional $10,000 in aftermarket parts to make it like it should be right out of the factory and in the same fel swoop void his warranty. Personally, that's why I think Ford is, or rather was, on the verge of bankruptcy.

No, actually Ford would be the only major American car company that wasn't on the verge of bankruptcy.

Alexus 08-03-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 135937)
No, actually Ford would be the only major American car company that wasn't on the verge of bankruptcy.

You'd be oblivious to think that they weren't. But I'm not here to start a debate.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=fr&q=...nkruptcy&meta=

Lug 08-03-2009 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 136246)
You'd be oblivious to think that they weren't. But I'm not here to start a debate.

Ford bankruptcy - Recherche Google

Perhaps you should actually read one of those links? Here's the first one on your list:
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As Chrysler makes its way through bankruptcy court and General Motors tries to avoid the same fate, Ford is emerging as the strongest of the “Big Three” automakers.

Ford has taken no federal bailout money, but it’s pulling ahead of its rivals because of well-timed financial planning and a focused and attractive mix of product. The automaker also is profiting from the troubles at GM and Chrysler.

“[Ford’s Chief Executive Alan] Mulally went out and got credit when it was available, and he has positioned the automaker with a global strategy using the Fiesta and the Focus,” said George Magliano, director of automotive industry research at IHS Global Insight. “So they have gone way up the ladder, and of course they look a lot better because they didn’t ask for a bailout.”
Ford is pushing ahead with its plan to build small compact modern cars for the U.S. market.

On Wednesday the automaker said it will invest $550 million to convert its old Michigan Truck Plant into a facility that will build its next-generation Focus, which expected to roll off the line next year. The plant will also make a new battery-electric version of the Focus for the North American market. That vehicle is expected to debut in 2011.

The move could help sustain Ford’s sales momentum. North American auto sales remain dismal, but Ford added market share in April, thanks to record sales of its fuel-efficient midsize Fusion. And with Chrysler in bankruptcy and likely to see sales continue to plummet, Ford will continue to gain, analysts say.
Ford sales were down 32 percent from a year earlier, but that was good enough to push past Toyota to reclaim its position as the nation’s No. 2 car company, with 16 percent of the market. GM, the largest automaker with 21 percent of the market, saw sales drop 34 percent. Chrysler, which filed for a government-engineered bankruptcy Thursday, reported the sharpest decline among major automakers, falling 48 percent.

Key to Ford’s success is its strong cash position. Two years ago, having just arrived in Detroit from Boeing and profiting from a stronger credit market, Ford’s Chief Executive Alan Mulally mortgaged every conceivable asset owned by the automaker — including the iconic blue oval Ford logo — to the tune of $23 billion to finance its turnaround plan.

Today, Ford has around $30 billion on hand, enough to finance its day-to-day operating needs until sometime in 2010, when the auto market is expected to pick up again, according to analysts.


I assume that should be good enough, after all it is your link. :D

Bushguts 08-09-2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 135139)
And, it's front wheel drive.

no, its awd

dad 08-09-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushguts (Post 145002)
no, its awd

Your a day late, and a dollar short!


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