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Originally Posted by Alexus What you're basically trying to tell me is that Ford is too lazy to fine-tune these engines, so the customer has to invest an additional $10,000

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Old 08-02-2009, 09:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What you're basically trying to tell me is that Ford is too lazy to fine-tune these engines, so the customer has to invest an additional $10,000 in aftermarket parts to make it like it should be right out of the factory and in the same fel swoop void his warranty. Personally, that's why I think Ford is, or rather was, on the verge of bankruptcy.
No, I'm not saying that at all. If you use that logic then Nissan is too lazy to fine-tune the VQ37HR because we can boost it and run 500hp or so reliably. You're saying that if you haven't tuned the engine in such a way that it's making the absolute maximum amount of power before it breaks then the factory is lazy.

Ford just puts a very, very solid engine in it's V8 Mustangs. They are tuned to make solid power and appeal to the masses while maintaining the strength to take on a lot more.
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My buddy swears by his modified Mustang. He said his stock motor can handle things that most other factory motors can't handle. Again, good for Ford. I'm buying their stock when they take a small dip. Again, that says a lot. These guys have something there. They are now built like tanks. They also made Land Rover what they are today. My parents have two supercharged models which are reliable and well-built.
They are good cars and can take a lot of abuse. In the case of the 4.6L in the Mustangs... it can take it with ease. That's the reason Ford offers FRPP superchargers as an option, and backs them with the standard warranty.

We're about to see what their Eco-Boost turbo 4 and turbo 6's can take once more hit the market and some tuners get their hands on them.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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They are good cars and can take a lot of abuse. In the case of the 4.6L in the Mustangs... it can take it with ease. That's the reason Ford offers FRPP superchargers as an option, and backs them with the standard warranty.

We're about to see what their Eco-Boost turbo 4 and turbo 6's can take once more hit the market and some tuners get their hands on them.
Steve, good for Ford. I wish them all the best. When I rode in my buddy's Mustang, it scared the you know what out of me. He laughed the whole way. I respect them. My brother's Jeeps and Jeep SRT8 also have gained my attention. I noticed his Jeeps are built way better than American companies of past. Ford though, has put it right into the materials of the car. Jeep is working on it. I hope they can do it too. His SRT8 Jeep owned my 370. Corners and acceleration. I laughed and was proud of his car. He loaned me his '09 Wrangler manual, and I loved it.

By the way, the SHO weighs almost 4,400 lbs. Oh my God. Wow. That's amazing! 4,361 to be exact.

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What you're basically trying to tell me is that Ford is too lazy to fine-tune these engines, so the customer has to invest an additional $10,000 in aftermarket parts to make it like it should be right out of the factory and in the same fel swoop void his warranty. Personally, that's why I think Ford is, or rather was, on the verge of bankruptcy.
No, actually Ford would be the only major American car company that wasn't on the verge of bankruptcy.
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No, actually Ford would be the only major American car company that wasn't on the verge of bankruptcy.
You'd be oblivious to think that they weren't. But I'm not here to start a debate.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=fr&q=...nkruptcy&meta=
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You'd be oblivious to think that they weren't. But I'm not here to start a debate.

Ford bankruptcy - Recherche Google
Perhaps you should actually read one of those links? Here's the first one on your list:
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As Chrysler makes its way through bankruptcy court and General Motors tries to avoid the same fate, Ford is emerging as the strongest of the “Big Three” automakers.

Ford has taken no federal bailout money, but it’s pulling ahead of its rivals because of well-timed financial planning and a focused and attractive mix of product. The automaker also is profiting from the troubles at GM and Chrysler.

“[Ford’s Chief Executive Alan] Mulally went out and got credit when it was available, and he has positioned the automaker with a global strategy using the Fiesta and the Focus,” said George Magliano, director of automotive industry research at IHS Global Insight. “So they have gone way up the ladder, and of course they look a lot better because they didn’t ask for a bailout.”
Ford is pushing ahead with its plan to build small compact modern cars for the U.S. market.

On Wednesday the automaker said it will invest $550 million to convert its old Michigan Truck Plant into a facility that will build its next-generation Focus, which expected to roll off the line next year. The plant will also make a new battery-electric version of the Focus for the North American market. That vehicle is expected to debut in 2011.

The move could help sustain Ford’s sales momentum. North American auto sales remain dismal, but Ford added market share in April, thanks to record sales of its fuel-efficient midsize Fusion. And with Chrysler in bankruptcy and likely to see sales continue to plummet, Ford will continue to gain, analysts say.
Ford sales were down 32 percent from a year earlier, but that was good enough to push past Toyota to reclaim its position as the nation’s No. 2 car company, with 16 percent of the market. GM, the largest automaker with 21 percent of the market, saw sales drop 34 percent. Chrysler, which filed for a government-engineered bankruptcy Thursday, reported the sharpest decline among major automakers, falling 48 percent.

Key to Ford’s success is its strong cash position. Two years ago, having just arrived in Detroit from Boeing and profiting from a stronger credit market, Ford’s Chief Executive Alan Mulally mortgaged every conceivable asset owned by the automaker — including the iconic blue oval Ford logo — to the tune of $23 billion to finance its turnaround plan.

Today, Ford has around $30 billion on hand, enough to finance its day-to-day operating needs until sometime in 2010, when the auto market is expected to pick up again, according to analysts.


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