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theDreamer 05-22-2013 02:58 PM

Toyota working on new supra with bmw?
 
TOYOTA WORKING ON NEW SUPRA WITH BMW? - Speedhunters

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Rumors of a new Toyota Supra have been circulating for some time now, and new reports are suggesting that the reborn Supra might be a result of Toyota’s collaboration with BMW. According to a story from Motor Trend, a new mid-size sports car is being developed as part of Toyota and BMW’s tech-sharing collaboration, and we should be seeing a concept version of the car at this year’s Tokyo Motor Show. According to the report, Tetsuya Tada of Toytoa 86 fame will also be serving as lead engineer for this new project. The story also hints at a chassis derived from the 86/FR-S platform, possible hybrid powertrains and a BMW version of the car that will wear unique sheetmetal. There is no confirmation that the new car will be called the Supra, but it seems to be a logical fit.

What would you like to see from a BMW-Toyota sports car?

fonzo179 05-22-2013 03:23 PM

Personnally, I would only want to see the finished product.

I was never a big fan of the Supra. Just too small looking to me...kinda like a college girl's car. I know the MK IV had everyone drooling, but I didn't think it was classy enough for me.

I'll stick to my NISSAN Z,.

kenchan 05-22-2013 04:10 PM

toyota = boring cars in general, never liked them, tries too hard exterior design.
bmw = douche image, breaks down often, bland exterior design.

toyota + bmw = _____

XiP 05-22-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2328471)
toyota = boring cars in general, never liked them, tries too hard exterior design.
bmw = douche image, breaks down often, bland exterior design.

toyota + bmw = _____

:icon18::rofl2:

Jasonle 05-22-2013 04:16 PM

interesting!

kenchan 05-22-2013 04:35 PM

i guess my real question is, does toyota really need bmw's help?

i seriously doubt this... more the other way around this day and age.

XiP 05-22-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2328512)
i guess my real question is, does toyota really need bmw's help?

i seriously doubt this... more the other way around this day and age.

I was thinking the same thing, would be better if Toyota stayed as far away from BMW as possible

lemon-fresh 05-22-2013 04:45 PM

I assume the collaboration with BMW means they can charge BMW prices. Plus hype train means ridiculous expensive.

fonzo179 05-22-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2328530)
I assume the collaboration with BMW means they can charge BMW prices. Plus hype train means ridiculous expensive.

I'm seeing images in my head....what could they be???? Oh, wait now I know. $200,000 Acura NSX leading the way. :shakes head:

JungleZ 05-22-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2328471)
toyota = boring cars in general, never liked them, tries too hard exterior design.
bmw = douche image, breaks down often, bland exterior design.

toyota + bmw = _____

Nissan= cheap plastic garbage rattling seats and paint chips how are you Gonna talk crap on superior companies.

fonzo179 05-22-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328600)
Nissan= cheap plastic garbage rattling seats and paint chips how are you Gonna talk crap on superior companies.

Superior??? So I guess that means BMW also has one of the top 3 hightest selling electric cars in the world? Or did I miss something...oh I remember.

Nissan or as you so skillfully put it "garbage", embraced the age of technology through going green with electric cars by selling 25,000 LEAF units in the US in....what was it Bloomberg said at the end of 2nd QTR FY13....ah got it, less than half the time it took the Prius.

I'm not really sure what you planned to accomplish by flaming NISSAN on a NISSAN forum full of consumers whom actually know what they are talking about. I love your blanketed statements though "rattling seats, paint chips". Dafuq?

ZKraken22 05-22-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328600)
Nissan= cheap plastic garbage rattling seats and paint chips how are you Gonna talk crap on superior companies.

that might be your Z. mu Z doesn't have rattling seats and paint chips

JungleZ 05-22-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzo179 (Post 2328626)
Superior??? So I guess that means BMW also has one of the top 3 hightest selling electric cars in the world? Or did I miss something...oh I remember.

Nissan or as you so skillfully put it "garbage", embraced the age of technology through going green with electric cars by selling 25,000 LEAF units in the US in....what was it Bloomberg said at the end of 2nd QTR FY13....ah got it, less than half the time it took the Prius.

I'm not really sure what you planned to accomplish by flaming NISSAN on a NISSAN forum full of consumers whom actually know what they are talking about. I love your blanketed statements though "rattling seats, paint chips". Dafuq?

Lol at Nissan leaf, Nissan wishes it could touch Honda, Toyota, bmw. Not even worth debating the truth hurts.

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328669)
Lol at Nissan leaf, Nissan wishes it could touch Honda, Toyota, bmw. Not even worth debating the truth hurts.

Why are you still here? If I hated a car and car company as much as you seem to, I wouldn't waste my time bitching and moaning on that cars enthusiast forum.

JungleZ 05-22-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2328673)
Why are you still here? If I hated a car and car company as much as you seem to, I wouldn't waste my time bitching and moaning on that cars enthusiast forum.

Don't worry man ill be getting into a new lease soon, I'm sure by the time I get rid of the fat pig sloppy z ill be banned from this forum. Just enjoy the trolling while it lasts

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 06:24 PM

Why? What possible thrill can someone get from being universally disliked? Get a new hobby.

lemon-fresh 05-22-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzo179 (Post 2328574)
I'm seeing images in my head....what could they be???? Oh, wait now I know. $200,000 Acura NSX leading the way. :shakes head:

read my mind... :icon18:

XiP 05-22-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328689)
Don't worry man ill be getting into a new lease soon, I'm sure by the time I get rid of the fat pig sloppy z ill be banned from this forum. Just enjoy the trolling while it lasts

Why waste your time man? There's a lot more fun and/or productive things you can be doing :twocents:

JungleZ 05-22-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2328718)
Why waste your time man? There's a lot more fun and/or productive things you can be doing :twocents:

True... Most of my trolling is when I'm bored at work though.

Anyways how can you guys not agree that Toyota is a superior company to Nissan though.

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328724)
Anyways how can you guys not agree that Toyota is a superior company to Nissan though.

Because we enjoy driving a car, not an appliance?

XiP 05-22-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328724)
True... Most of my trolling is when I'm bored at work though.

Anyways how can you guys not agree that Toyota is a superior company to Nissan though.

Well... I can't blame you then, I frequent this site a lot when I'm working too :icon17: (well actually I visit this site every time I'm sitting at the computer or browsing my phone because it's addicting :rolleyes:)

I do like Toyota, all our other cars have been Toyotas and my 370Z was our first Nissan. It hasn't disappointed me though...I mainly drive it around for fun at night and on the weekends. I haven't put that many miles on it or driven it in harsh weather or bad roads... so my opinion may be biased. I can't really say whether Toyota is superior to Nissan because the 370Z is the only Nissan I've ever driven... I'd probably have to test drive one of their sedans, SUVs, vans, and trucks then I could have a better idea how their vehicles are compared to Toyota

UNKNOWN_370 05-22-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328689)
Don't worry man ill be getting into a new lease soon, I'm sure by the time I get rid of the fat pig sloppy z ill be banned from this forum. Just enjoy the trolling while it lasts



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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328724)
True... Most of my trolling is when I'm bored at work though.

Anyways how can you guys not agree that Toyota is a superior company to Nissan though.


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Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2328743)
Well... I can't blame you then, I frequent this site a lot when I'm working too :icon17: (well actually I visit this site every time I'm sitting at the computer or browsing my phone because it's addicting :rolleyes:)

I do like Toyota, all our other cars have been Toyotas and my 370Z was our first Nissan. It hasn't disappointed me though...I mainly drive it around for fun at night and on the weekends. I haven't put that many miles on it or driven it in harsh weather or bad roads... so my opinion may be biased. I can't really say whether Toyota is superior to Nissan because the 370Z is the only Nissan I've ever driven... I'd probably have to test drive one of their sedans, SUVs, vans, and trucks then I could have a better idea how their vehicles are compared to Toyota

why do you even feed the troll? He's only praising toyota cuz somehow he thinks his love for standard vehicles offends car enthusiasts? Which basically shows his opinion is worth about ummmm....

A floating piece of shyt.

What i don't get is... If you're bored at work? Why not be on a forum of a car you like so you can begin the research process. Just shows how much of a scumbag some people are. And this is why people like jungle will come in second in life. Honestly, i think he's saying he owns a Z. I think it's his mother's or his brother that he envies. Or even a friend. this guy has NO CREDIBILTY at all.

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328872)
I'm not talking about the overpriced 370z, I'm talking about the average consumer who knows Nissan is a cheap company they wouldnt choose over Toyota or Honda.

Overpriced? Maybe. Of course, most of us were still able to BUY them.

Z_ealot 05-22-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2328831)
why do you even feed the troll? He's only praising toyota cuz somehow he thinks his love for standard vehicles offends car enthusiasts? Which basically shows his opinion is worth about ummmm....

A floating piece of shyt.

What i don't get is... If you're bored at work? Why not be on a forum of a car you like so you can begin the research process. Just shows how much of a scumbag some people are. And this is why people like jungle will come in second in life. Honestly, i think he's saying he owns a Z. I think it's his mother's or his brother that he envies. Or even a friend. this guy has NO CREDIBILTY at all.

don't you remember, he bought the Z cause of it's KILLER looks, why would he do research when he can just pick a car at random based on looks alone? lol

Jordo! 05-22-2013 11:06 PM

This could be a good development. 86 chassis design principles (relatively lightweight, low CG), BMW blown motor, competitor with next gen Z...

I'm interested. Toyota, bring it on.

shadoquad 05-23-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2329055)
This could be a good development. 86 chassis design principles (relatively lightweight, low CG), BMW blown motor, competitor with next gen Z...

I'm interested. Toyota, bring it on.

:iagree: it will be a very interesting product, imo.

bigaudiofanat 05-23-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2328471)
toyota = boring cars in general, never liked them, tries too hard exterior design.
bmw = douche image, breaks down often, bland exterior design.

toyota + bmw = Simply awesome

Fixed

Chuck33079 05-23-2013 08:45 AM

Let's hope it's Toyota reliabilty with BMW performance and not the other way around.

Coon-azz 05-23-2013 08:58 AM

[QUOTE=JungleZ;2328724]True... Most of my trolling is when I'm bored at work though.
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Well, now I know were my wasted tax $ is going.

Vertigo 05-23-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2328689)
Don't worry man ill be getting into a new lease soon, I'm sure by the time I get rid of the fat pig sloppy z ill be banned from this forum. Just enjoy the trolling while it lasts



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kenchan 05-23-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2329455)
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yah, just stick with your stereo installations, Big. :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 05-23-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2329472)
Let's hope it's Toyota reliabilty with BMW performance and not the other way around.


Am i the only one here that realizes these are the two companies with the highest recall counts in the world???????:roflpuke2:

Codename for the concept should be called "Total Recsll". :icon17:

Some of you guys have your preferences for whatever reason, but toyota's are maintenece reliable, but safety wise are ticking time-bombs. Then BMW has more crucial parts replaced than any other car company. Fuel pumps, injectors, transmission parts, electrical components etc etc...

Chuck33079 05-23-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2329627)
Am i the only one here that realizes these are the two companies with the highest recall counts in the world???????:roflpuke2:

Codename for the concept should be called "Total Recsll". :icon17:

Some of you guys have your preferences for whatever reason, but toyota's are maintenece reliable, but safety wise are ticking time-bombs. Then BMW has more crucial parts replaced than any other car company. Fuel pumps, injectors, transmission parts, electrical components etc etc...

Let's not get into that whole "unintended acceleration" Toyota debacle. That seemed to be more user error than company issue. They just recalled the cars to save face and get our government off their ***. I remember seeing a chart of the affected people's ages. If you were under 55 you were an outlier.

BMWs are just crap as far as reliability goes. They're the German Mitsubishi.

JARblue 05-23-2013 10:16 AM

IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal :driving:

JARblue 05-23-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2329634)
Let's not get into that whole "unintended acceleration" Toyota debacle.

lol damn you... I was too slow :icon17:

kenchan 05-23-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2329636)
IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal :driving:

lol.... that was some serious issue they had indeed... :eekdance:

UNKNOWN_370 05-23-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2329634)
Let's not get into that whole "unintended acceleration" Toyota debacle. That seemed to be more user error than company issue. They just recalled the cars to save face and get our government off their ***. I remember seeing a chart of the affected people's ages. If you were under 55 you were an outlier.

BMWs are just crap as far as reliability goes. They're the German Mitsubishi.

There were quite a few seperate recalls for three years straight.. Unintended accel was just one. Before that three year stretch, there were quite a few more. The 2million car reca.l was a sequel event, there were more mass recalls for toyota. Toyota has issues. I'm not bashing them. It's just true. 2.5 years without a car smashing into a wall isn't enough time for me to give them props. Sorry.

When i say Toyota's are the most boring cars to drive on the road. I'm not bashing either. It's a subjective opinion that most modern day enthusiasts will agree. (Not counting the overrated FR-S) Another subjective opinion.

I just personally don't like sports cars with less than 270hp

UNKNOWN_370 05-23-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2329636)
IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal :driving:

Sounds like the perfect performance car for guys like jungle Z. He should find a 2009 UNRECALLED Prius as his next perforamce car.
:rofl2::rofl2:

Chuck33079 05-23-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2329708)
When i say Toyota's are the most boring cars to drive on the road. I'm not bashing either. It's a stone cold fact.

I won't bash the BRZ/FT86. They built a nice little USDM 240sx. It would be the best $20k car on the road. At $25-$27k, not so much. They're selling the hell out of them though, and it will get other car makers to bring back light RWD cars instead of bloated FWD pigs. For that reason, I'm a fan. Other than that, Toyota builds transportation appliances that are fairly reliable. Nowhere close to their 1980s and 1990s peak, though. Those cars were indestructible.

UNKNOWN_370 05-23-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2329732)
I won't bash the BRZ/FT86. They built a nice little USDM 240sx. It would be the best $20k car on the road. At $25-$27k, not so much. They're selling the hell out of them though, and it will get other car makers to bring back light RWD cars instead of bloated FWD pigs. For that reason, I'm a fan. Other than that, Toyota builds transportation appliances that are fairly reliable. Nowhere close to their 1980s and 1990s peak, though. Those cars were indestructible.

Yeah, the FR-S topping out @ $26,000 BRZ @$27,000 I would have had no criticisms and all praise. But $30,000 for an FRS and almost 32,000 for a BRZ. Starting prices $3,500 off. So is the Z, but we have power behind our cars. So more logical for nissan to try it than toyota.


:inoutroflpuke::inoutroflpuke::inoutroflpuke:

Completely laughable.


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