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UNKNOWN_370

Reduced weight chatter and rumored 475hp??? I dunno bout that? Especially if the next gen stang ends up being 3400lbs or less? I see it possible.

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Well Ford has been saying for the longest time that they want the incoming models to be at least 250lbs lighter than the ones they replace. So it's possible that the next gen will come in under 3400lbs (3600-250 = 3350).

The S550 chassis does look a little smaller than the S197. There is a lot of padding/cladding hiding whats really going on with that car.

475 hp? Entirely possible. The current GTs are underrated at 420hp. With direct injection they should easily make more than 450hp.

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UNKNOWN_370

250lbs and 475hp... What if the 475 ends up being underrated? That car will need serious stopping power. The current brembo brake kit isn't getting straight a's in reviews, so i can definitely see the potential for an upgrade in braking, along with weight reduction and a power spike.

Ford takes being on the number one spot seriously. The SS1LE shattered the GT/Track pkg. Next years car from mustang is going to shatter camaro SS1LE, guaranteed. That's what chevy and ford do... Take turns shattering each others ego each other every 2 years. Next year is Ford's turn Long live the muscle car wars.

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The Brembos are actually very good. Like almost any car, they need a pad and fluid upgrade for hardcore driving. That's it.

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UNKNOWN_370

I know, but pound for pound on track. The camaro has received much more praise for it's stock brembo kit for not fading. while ford has had fade issues from stock under certain conditions, like our akebono's have issues under certain conditions

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I don't even bother with stock brake comparisons because it is a moot point for those of us that do real hardcore driving. We upgrade our pads/fluid right away as a street pad and DOT 3 fluid just won't hold up to any track or extended spirited driving.

With pad/fluid upgrades these systems are going to perform almost identically.

The only caveat would be the Akebono system, which is in a much greater need of additional air cooling than the Brembo calipers used on the Mustang/Camaro. The latter are bigger and do a better job of expelling heat. The Akebonos have a nasty habit of retaining a lot of it and really benefit from ducting.

I do really like mine with DS2500 pads and ATE Blue, though.

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"Stangs still using Dot 3?!?!?!? Damm, your wife's economy car uses better brake fluid than that!

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UNKNOWN_370

Yeah, but what you don't bother with and what Ford is trying to do in terms of getting a better review against the camaro are two different things. SEVERAL Video reviews of both cars on track prove the camaro braking to be much more confident and track ready from stock.

Point of previous statements was simple based on what looks like a larger caliper and a reason why Ford would want to improve on the brakes they already have. Which is based on the camaro v8 SS/1LE performance. It's direct competitor.

Though you're mostly accurate concerning Z brakes to a point. (Z brakes don't give problems in cooler weather with the proper upgrades. Brake hoses necessary for summer driving). It's not relevant to the Camaro/mustang (challenger)redesign war.

Basically what we were observing.

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The 14" brembos seemed to be fine on the 550hp GT500 while dealing with more weight than this guy is likely to. I expect they'll be fine for reasonable track duty.

m4a1mustang

They are great for track duty. Just needs an appropriate pad with DOT 4 fluid. Additional cooling is always a plus.

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