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KERMIT 03-27-2013 04:17 PM

2014 camaro Z/28
 
2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 is back! [w/video]

Ls7 + lighter = :tup:

Haboob 03-27-2013 04:22 PM

Yet still ugly.

Interior and exterior.

I guess it's not always what's on the inside (engine) that counts.

They should spend some money on the design aspect and come up with something sexy, because the Corvette is losing its sexiness and the Camaro hasn't had it for a looooong time.



All my opinion of course, as some may actually like this.

speedfreek 03-27-2013 04:29 PM

Holding out to see what they do with the ATS chassis. Although I like the new taillights better than the previous model. Going to be a tough decision come 2016 timeframe when I will be looking. New Z or something else....

SS_Firehawk 03-27-2013 05:30 PM

Steps in the right direction. Did they seriously put carbon ceramic brakes on this car? Talk about losing weight the most expensive way possible. I would have looked at making the suspension and body all aluminum too. 305 19's all around is pretty sweet. I think most will remove the rear seat anyways, maybe implement a quick release like a minivan. ZL1 gearing with 3.91 is pretty awesome too. I wonder if they are using the mag suspension for this too.

UNKNOWN_370 03-27-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 2236745)
Holding out to see what they do with the ATS chassis. Although I like the new taillights better than the previous model. Going to be a tough decision come 2016 timeframe when I will be looking. New Z or something else....

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...-ny-naias.html

Agree on the ATS chassis. The This thread is basically a rehash of my ongoing thread, but With the improvements in suspension in this chassis. The upcoming weight reduction in the other chassis. And the LS7 is now part of the camaro lineup... Wow, from a consumer based perspective, guys can go on ugly looks all day and other negative tangents... Opinions are like azzholes...

But from the performance enthusiast perspective. As this car gets older. It's dropping it hard on the competition when it comes to power and suspension. The new chassis will only take it to new heights... On this current chassis,The Z/28 is 500hp and around 3800lbs or less. So this thing has a similar power to weight ratio as a GT-R without the use of turbos. Imagine going FI on this bytch.:excited:

ZKraken22 03-27-2013 05:52 PM

Mustang/Camaro they just have to many options i would be so overwhelmed! But this thing seems like it will put the 302 boss to shame. This is a nice car. tire/brakes are amazing. But still the interior i so, so ugly. I wish the 370z had a rival to push more updates like the mustang and camaro do.

UNKNOWN_370 03-27-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 2236873)
Mustang/Camaro they just have to many options i would be so overwhelmed! But this thing seems like it will put the 302 boss to shame. This is a nice car. tire/brakes are amazing. But still the interior i so, so ugly. I wish the 370z had a rival to push more updates like the mustang and camaro do.

Thats a great point. The Z stands on its own.

speedfreek 03-27-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2236859)
http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...-ny-naias.html

Agree on the ATS chassis. The This thread is basically a rehash of my ongoing thread, but With the improvements in suspension in this chassis. The upcoming weight reduction in the other chassis. And the LS7 is now part of the camaro lineup... Wow, from a consumer based perspective, guys can go on ugly looks all day and other negative tangents... Opinions are like azzholes...

But from the performance enthusiast perspective. As this car gets older. It's dropping it hard on the competition when it comes to power and suspension. The new chassis will only take it to new heights... On this current chassis,The Z/28 is 500hp and around 3800lbs or less. So this thing has a similar power to weight ratio as a GT-R without the use of turbos. Imagine going FI on this bytch.:excited:

Only issue with going FI on the new Z28 is the use of the LS7. This could prove to be problematic if you are not happy with its NA numbers. The LS7 has thin cylinder walls and high compression. Not good at all for boost since they are prone to blowing up stock. See early issues with LS7. There is a reason why they supercharged an LS3 and called it an LS9 and put it in the ZR1.

shadoquad 03-27-2013 06:38 PM

I like it.

Mike 03-27-2013 06:39 PM

this one is streetable, but its designed as a track toy. Hell, the radio only has one speaker. Pretty cool if you ask me.

m4a1mustang 03-27-2013 06:41 PM

I like it

cv129 03-27-2013 06:49 PM

like the front...not the rear...rear somehow reminds me of an ugly version of the Honda Prelude

Mikes350z 03-27-2013 06:51 PM

At first glance I love it. I thought "looks sick." But, then I instantly thought "every damn kid with a mustang or camaro make this less awesome."

Even with a suped up version it still is a Camaro that most kids have and seems just like that, a kids car. I'm sure a lot of "kids" have Z's too, heck im probably a kid by most standards but the Z looks like more of a classy garage car while the maro and stang are street beaters. It's just not exclusive, every chick will be like cool camaro but few comprehend the exclusivity of the Z28 whereas a Z is basically a small club of select few.

End of day car is a monster that will dominate the road but to me I'd rather have a very good engine and a very great exterior/interior combo.

m4a1mustang 03-27-2013 06:55 PM

Sorry, but the Z is not exclusive. Exclusive implies that there are some sort of barriers to entry. The Z is no more or less expensive than a similarly optioned Mustang or Camaro.

UNKNOWN_370 03-27-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2236955)
Sorry, but the Z is not exclusive. Exclusive implies that there are some sort of barriers to entry. The Z is no more or less expensive than a similarly optioned Mustang or Camaro.


First I threw up in my mouth when I heard "Exclusive" again. Then I wrote you this big...


Thank You!!!

StangerGT 03-27-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 2236908)
Only issue with going FI on the new Z28 is the use of the LS7. This could prove to be problematic if you are not happy with its NA numbers. The LS7 has thin cylinder walls and high compression. Not good at all for boost since they are prone to blowing up stock. There is a reason why they supercharged an LS3 and called it an LS9 and put it in the ZR1.

I lol at this...

as Livernois is modifying a friends z06 with a N/A package expected to net 630 rwhp...

UNKNOWN_370 03-27-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 2236908)
Only issue with going FI on the new Z28 is the use of the LS7. This could prove to be problematic if you are not happy with its NA numbers. The LS7 has thin cylinder walls and high compression. Not good at all for boost since they are prone to blowing up stock. There is a reason why they supercharged an LS3 and called it an LS9 and put it in the ZR1.

This is the first I hear of Z06's blowing engines???

Red__Zed 03-27-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2236955)
Sorry, but the Z is not exclusive. Exclusive implies that there are some sort of barriers to entry. The Z is no more or less expensive than a similarly optioned Mustang or Camaro.

you're telling me that any ordinary joe with decent credit could walk up and buy one? I find that doubtful. I had to show that I'd owned three Z's previously as well as demonstrate that I had 20,000 posts on a Nissan forum before they let me purchase mine.

FairladyZ 03-27-2013 07:28 PM

i like it even though back reminds me of prelude a little

looks good man

StangerGT 03-27-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2236998)
This is the first I hear of Z06's blowing engines???

Many reputable sites have Superchargers for sale as well...

UNKNOWN_370 03-27-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2236999)
you're telling me that any ordinary joe with decent credit could walk up and buy one? I find that doubtful. I had to show that I'd owned three Z's previously as well as demonstrate that I had 20,000 posts on a Nissan forum before they let me purchase mine.

You're lucky they didn't make you walk the highwire over a den of lions to attain your Z. This thing is so "Exclusive." :roflpuke2:

JungleZ 03-27-2013 07:48 PM

Transformers anybody? will always remind me of some transformers looking machine

Give me GT500, Viper.

ImportConvert 03-27-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2236999)
you're telling me that any ordinary joe with decent credit could walk up and buy one? I find that doubtful. I had to show that I'd owned three Z's previously as well as demonstrate that I had 20,000 posts on a Nissan forum before they let me purchase mine.

I had never financed a car before in my life. C6 Z06 was my first vehicle I financed. Bought it new for my 25 birthday present from me to myself. I paid 5% interest. Not bad for a first car/never owned a house. When I bought my 370z (traded) a little over a year later, they didn't even run my credit. 3.2% interest for 72mo on this one. Obtaining financing for things you honestly can afford is pie if you've not made many stupid errors or your true/full income is not provable (waiter/bartender).

ImportConvert 03-27-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2236998)
This is the first I hear of Z06's blowing engines???

I forget what it was, but the valve guides or stems or something on some LS7's were out of spec and they were snapping valves. GM traced the problem back and fixed it. This was a rare (by the numbers)---but legit issue.

Haboob 03-27-2013 08:18 PM

Def. see 20x (maybe more) Camaro's and Mustang's than you do Z's. Not saying "exclusive", but maybe "rare" is the correct word?

I could go a week without seeing a 370, but not one mile without seeing a Camaro or Mustang (new body style).

That's why I enjoy the Z even more.

Either way, you can make all the power you want, but if you look ugly while doing it you're not going to get any attention from me, Ford & Chevy.

b1adesofcha0s 03-27-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2236945)
like the front...not the rear...rear somehow reminds me of an ugly version of the Honda Prelude

:iagree:

Seems like they Camaro'd the Corvette's taillights and unCamaro'd the Camaro's taillights :icon17:

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2236955)
Sorry, but the Z is not exclusive. Exclusive implies that there are some sort of barriers to entry. The Z is no more or less expensive than a similarly optioned Mustang or Camaro.

:iagree:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2236999)
you're telling me that any ordinary joe with decent credit could walk up and buy one? I find that doubtful. I had to show that I'd owned three Z's previously as well as demonstrate that I had 20,000 posts on a Nissan forum before they let me purchase mine.

:rofl2:

Haboob 03-27-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2237103)
Seems like they Camaro'd the Corvette's taillights and unCamaro'd the Camaro's taillights :icon17:

:iagree: on that too. Funny if you ask me.

Red__Zed 03-27-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2237095)
I had never financed a car before in my life. C6 Z06 was my first vehicle I financed. Bought it new for my 25 birthday present from me to myself. I paid 5% interest. Not bad for a first car/never owned a house. When I bought my 370z (traded) a little over a year later, they didn't even run my credit. 3.2% interest for 72mo on this one. Obtaining financing for things you honestly can afford is pie if you've not made many stupid errors or your true/full income is not provable (waiter/bartender).

your sarcasm meter may need re-calibrating.

Ni55anPat 03-27-2013 08:58 PM

i like it actually.

speedfreek 03-27-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2236990)
I lol at this...

as Livernois is modifying a friends z06 with a N/A package expected to net 630 rwhp...


Quote:

Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2237002)
Many reputable sites have Superchargers for sale as well...

Didn't say they weren't all I stated was that the LS7s had issues early on. I am sure you can build the engine for boost. There are builds with 700-800 rwhp with no issues reported.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2237099)
I forget what it was, but the valve guides or stems or something on some LS7's were out of spec and they were snapping valves. GM traced the problem back and fixed it. This was a rare (by the numbers)---but legit issue.

This is what I was talking about. It was an issue with the LS7 early on. Given over the years of development I would hope the primary issues have been fixed. Still there is a reason why they chose to supercharge the LS3 for the ZR1 and not the LS7 due to it having thinner cylinder walls. Reliablity issues.

I wasn't trying to get this off topic was just replying to boosting it. I like the direction Chevy is going with the Camaro similar to what Ford has done with the Mustang. For the track I would go with this Z28. It's going to get even better when they get to the ATS chassis. Even lighter weight.

ImportConvert 03-27-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2237156)
your sarcasm meter may need re-calibrating.

My sarcasm meter doesn't work in print/type.

Red__Zed 03-27-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2237271)
My sarcasm meter doesn't work in print/type.

I guess I figured the comment about needing 20,000 posts on an Internet forum would have tipped you off.

ImportConvert 03-27-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2237328)
I guess I figured the comment about needing 20,000 posts on an Internet forum would have tipped you off.

I thought it was a joke to add to the explanation of how difficult it was to obtain financing for some reason.

Example: It has taken damn near forever to get my Form 4 processed by the ATF. They even trolled my posts online to make sure I wasn't complaining about the wait and added a month.


Yes...Form 4's do take forever, but the latter was a joke.

b15 03-28-2013 04:53 AM

Still not a fan of the design inside or out but glad to see GM focus on improving it in more than just the straight line category.

Also I wouldn't say the Z is exclusive but it is much less common.

UNKNOWN_370 03-28-2013 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2237609)
Still not a fan of the design inside or out but glad to see GM focus on improving it in more than just the straight line category.

Also I wouldn't say the Z is exclusive but it is much less common.

Yeah.. I think we can all agree the Z isn't common. :tup:

m4a1mustang 03-28-2013 05:43 AM

Definitely not as common as a Camaro/Mustang. But calling it exclusive and only available to a "select few" is hilarious.

UNKNOWN_370 03-28-2013 06:03 AM

Camaro Z/28 Exhaust note.

2014 Camaro Z28 Exhaust Sounds - YouTube

Coon-azz 03-28-2013 06:06 AM

Ok, I get it. But at the end of the day, Its still gonna be something like 50K for a Camero...

UNKNOWN_370 03-28-2013 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coon-azz (Post 2237636)
Ok, I get it. But at the end of the day, Its still gonna be something like 50K for a Camero...

Yeah... $50k for a 500hp camaro that is going to have a power to weight ratio similar to a $100,000 GT-R. Which makes it a performance bargain so far in my eyes.

I'm not going to all out praise it because Chevy hasn't pushed out all the stats. But it's 3 seconds faster on the track than the ZL-1. If it's the same price or cheaper than the ZL-1, it's a bargain still.

Here's some ZL-! track times just to get a gist of this cars overall performance.

http://fastestlaps.com/cars/chevrolet_camaro_zl-1.html

Here's some 370z sport track times. Look at the cars the z competes in compared to the Camaro ZL1. You see why a camaro may go up to $50,000

http://fastestlaps.com/cars/nissan_370z.html

b15 03-28-2013 06:55 AM

I don't get the people that say it'll still $xxxxxx for a Chevy, Nissan, whatever. You have porsche owners looking down at the GTR saying its still a Nissan. Who cares. Everyone buys their cars for a reason.

While I dont like the Camaro, and never have, it has a loyal fan base who will buy it. Just like the Z.


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